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Post by pchbreeze on Feb 4, 2005 11:23:33 GMT -5
Ok, I just watched the last 4 episodes over again...ok, well the 10th, and skimmed over 11, 12, and the ending to 13...and I have only one thing to say: NO!!!!! That's such fraking bullsh.t! No way man! That chick shot Adama in the lower abdomen area both times, but when he's lying on his back o the table the wounds and the XO's hands are on his chest!!! NO!!! You can't kill Adama! I knew there was soemthing wrong when I first started liking this slutty starbuck, that sinfully slept (and ditched) baltar...and then cried like a dumb whore when she found out that other chick was pregnant but YOU CANT KILL ADAMA! DAMN YOU ALL!!! Season two spoiler: The writers of the show are fraking cylons!!
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Post by francisdouse on Feb 4, 2005 15:00:33 GMT -5
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Post by MHall on Feb 5, 2005 8:47:33 GMT -5
After episode 5, with Starbuck's suspicious ability to figure out the Raider, and Tyrol's subsequent difficulties, some started pointing fingers at Starbuck. After episodes 12 and 13, we have a bit more evidence now that Starbuck is a Cylon: - She is sexually promiscuous after all. She's not a screw-up; she's a Cylon.
- She and Apollo are obviously headed for a love affair, and she is like a daughter to Commander Adama, so it would be a good plot device to make Starbuck a Cylon. She would rip the hearts out of both Apollo and Commander Adama. I'm getting a bit ferklempt with just the idea of it!
- Although she's always been a rebel, it seemed odd that Starbuck would so flagrantly disregard Adama's orders. And we "know" that the Cylons really want the Colonials to get Apollo's arrow, since Caprica Boomer was also trying to make Helo get it.
- Caprica black belt Six tried to kill Starbuck in a cruel toying way, apparently in a communicated jealousy rage from Baltar's internal Six. This is not counterevidence to my charge that Starbuck is a Cylon, because internal Six, in the depths of despair, was also petulant/saracastic/jealous about Boomer, snidely commenting to Baltar, "But you could probably sleep with her. That's what you want, right?" Black belt Six's attack appears to clear Starbuck to casual viewers, but not to careful viewers, so I think the writers are adding some misdirection to hide their obvious clues from weak-minded members of the audience. "These aren't the Cylons you're looking for. Move along."
What do you think?
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Post by Dangermouse on Feb 5, 2005 10:30:26 GMT -5
Ooooh, getting chills here. I don't think Starbuck could be a conscious cylon, but a sleeper one like Boomer? Who knows. She does seem to have no family, and she does seem to develop an understanding for Leoben from Ep 8. All the points you brought up can of course be alternately explained: e.g. cylon figure out: she is the best pilot ever.As to orders disobeyed: not only is she ordered by Roslin (because I think Roslin is Cylon controlled) she feels deeply betrayed since she trusted Adama so much. Plus, her blow up with Lee (where she feels she might have lost her best friend/potentially something more) couldn't have helped. BUT, they are open enough that the writers could go either way. As Boomer on Caprica showed a Cylon/Human line is blurry and machines can fight their programming for feelings. So bottom line: I am unsure, but yes it could be a possibility. I'd buy it (and a lot of other things) as long as it is well written. But a mushy softy in me hope she is just human. Favorite character (and her effect on Lee and Adama) and all
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Post by pchbreeze on Feb 6, 2005 4:34:14 GMT -5
Starbuck will be the last to be a cylon.
To be honest, its rather frustrating, not knowing who is who. There are only so many humans left, and the storyline about the cylons letting the humans live is starting to annoy me. I feel as if the Battlestar has nothing to worry about because obviously the cylons dont want to destroy them, and want them to go to Earth.
The only way to salvage this storyline is for them to have a showdown with cylons once they do get to Earth, or else it would all have been b.s.
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Post by MHall on Feb 7, 2005 6:15:45 GMT -5
More evidence against Starbuck: - "Are you alive?" -- Starbuck to Cylon raider (a Six says this to Helo, in addition to the Armstice Station representative.)
- The raider is initially totally unresponsive to Tyrol, whereas Starbuck flew it with incredible precision. Starbuck and Boomer seem to treat the raider similarly.
- Starbuck is the best shot in or out of the cockpit.
Starbuck has received only 4% of the votes in the "pick the toaster" poll on sci-fi, less than Dualla, Roslin, Baltar, Billy, or Ellen (<- most.) If Moore saw that poll, and I bet he did, then I think he had a good laugh.
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Post by Starbuck on Feb 10, 2005 16:22:07 GMT -5
Shit what an ending.
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Post by Blade Runner on Feb 10, 2005 16:25:40 GMT -5
Shit what an ending. Have you just seen it
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Post by Starbuck on Feb 10, 2005 16:32:56 GMT -5
Have you just seen it Don't forget we have been away for 2 weeks.
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Post by MattLee on Feb 16, 2005 21:07:15 GMT -5
So far Starbuck has had sex with her fiancee and one other man, at what point was that declared slut behaviour?
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Post by Daliden on Feb 17, 2005 6:19:04 GMT -5
Apollo seems to make it pretty clear that Starbuck has a somewhat promiscuous history.
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Post by Blade Runner on Feb 17, 2005 10:33:19 GMT -5
Apollo seems to make it pretty clear that Starbuck has a somewhat promiscuous history. Apollo makes it clear he dosnt want her to do the things she likes
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