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Post by Corwin on Jan 24, 2005 17:36:51 GMT -5
Probably not quite as good as KLG Part 1 but still an excellent episode.
To those who think Starbuck worked out that Boomer was a Cylon too quickly remember that the Boomer Starbuck had left had a bandaged face due to the gunshot wound.
Even if Boomer had followed her she could not have healed in that time.
As to why Boomer took out (or attempted to, don't know if she suceeded yet) Adama I think it has to be because he was acting against Roslin.
One thing I was half expecting to see was a new model Cylon appearing amongst the group of Boomers but that would have just repeated the end of the Mini I guess.
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Post by pudge on Jan 24, 2005 17:37:31 GMT -5
Don't worry, I reckon Crashdown will finally fulfil the role Moore had originally planned for him as a seditious viper pilot. I reckon he'd make a deadly wingman for Starbuck or Apollo.
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Post by pudge on Jan 24, 2005 17:38:48 GMT -5
Helo would make a good viper pilot also, come to think of it.
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Post by Corwin on Jan 24, 2005 17:48:36 GMT -5
We're going to have to have some new characters for the 2nd season or at least find out if a current one is really a Cylon as even if Helo does not get back to Galactica Starbuck certainly will and with Boomer Outing herself that means the Colonials will know all the humanoid cylons that we do and that's no fun  I vote for Racetrack to be a Cylon  Also thinking about it Tigh's going to be the centre of the show next season Adama's Dead or in a coma, Apollo is in the Brig, Roslin is in the Brig, Boomer is in the Brig and Starbuck will be put in the Brig when she gets back. Might need a bigger Brig ;D |
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Post by ernestborg9 on Jan 24, 2005 17:51:59 GMT -5
I took it to be the Tomb, as that has greater significance for the future (Earth, et al) combined with the future generation of Humano-Cylons (as represented by Valerii's forthcoming child). Also, it looks identical to the flash vision of the tomb Roslin had in Part 1. Just re-watched the episode, and Part I. Now totally convinced it is the Tomb, not the Opera House. Six leads Batlar to. For one thing, the ruins in the image which showed the forum and opera house were far more extensive than those evidenced in Part 2 For another, the entranceway to the ruins in Part II matches the flash image Roslin has of the tomb. Again, just because Baltar "sees" the Opera House, doesn't have to mean he's actually in in. BUT - I'll await being proven wrong next season |
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Post by MattLee on Jan 24, 2005 17:54:39 GMT -5
Surely someone would have noticed if he just wandered off. I think he might just be lying flat out still (and playing with himself ;D).
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Post by ernestborg9 on Jan 24, 2005 17:57:11 GMT -5
As to why Boomer took out (or attempted to, don't know if she suceeded yet) Adama I think it has to be because he was acting against Roslin. Don't think so. As far as we're aware, she hadn't been informed of developments in the fleet on her return. I think it was her Cylon personality momentarily reasserting itself after her contact with her sisters. After all, she just blown around a dozen of them all to hell on his orders. Remember, in Part I she was scared she was going to hurt someone - something deep down was preparing her, and she tried to fight it in an attempt to take her own life. Then she meets her sisters, and despite her attempt at denial, they inform her: "You can't fight destony, Sharon. It catches up with you. No matter what you do." As Conoy has stated, evertone has their role. Boomer's is to leave the bomb in the baseship and then shoot Adama. |
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Post by kingfish on Jan 24, 2005 18:05:20 GMT -5
 I read that the Boomer model that is with Helo is pregnant. If the Cylons purpose was to destroy humanity, "Humanities children have come home," what is the purpose of a new human life? To carry a child Boomer would have to be fully humanoid.
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Post by Basestar on Jan 24, 2005 18:07:18 GMT -5
This is a spoiler thread now right? The ep has been shown, so why read it unless you know or want to?
So here is a summary...
“Kobal’s Last Gleaming: Part 2”
Directed by Michael Rymer
UK airdate 24th Jan 05
Captions and
We open with a summary of scenes from Part 1 – Helo, Boomer, Roslin, Kara, etc.
The episode begins with scenes of the crashed Raptor burning on Kobal; the crew fight to get out; Tyrol and Crashdown pull people from the wreck. Baltar is trapped, in danger of dying, but Six appears, ghost-like, and tells him to take her hand. He does… and suddenly Crashdown breaks the moment, pulling him free. The Raptor explodes! Baltar stumbles about and collapses in the grass.
Title sequence
Promo shots of the episode
We open with Helo on Caprica. He and Boomer are in a museum, the home of the Arrow of Apollo Boomer tells him - “Don’t you know your history?” They bicker - he needs her to get off the planet and back to Galactica; without her, the Cylons would have caught them ages ago.
On Galactica – Tigh says Kara’s actions are unbelievable. “She must have been coerced” says Adama. He calls Roslin and tells her of Kara’s actions and demands to know if she told Kara to go to Caprica. She admits it, and claims her responsibility to the fleet as President over-rode his military decision. Adama asks her for her resignation. She refuses and Adama tells her that he is terminating her Presidency. “You’ll have to come and arrest me” says Roslin. “You don’t want bloodshed – and neither does the Press who are with me, recording every moment…”
Tigh and Adama order Colonial One isolated and prepare a strike team; “She’s bluffing” he say. “He’s bluffing” says Roslin.
Adama asks Lt Gaeta about the Cylon transponders – one is working. “I need a pilot” he says and goes to talk to Boomer in the infirmary. “I need you to jump to Kobal and take care of the Basestar” he tells her. “The transponder will let you through – for all they know you could be a Cylon agent returning with a captured Raptor. Make like you want to dock and fire your nuke into the Basestar.”
Apollo and the Striketeam prepares… as Kara is underway; she’s not sure where she is – and then Caprica hoves into view. “I’m good, I’m home” she says. Her Raider flies through Cylon ships and over Caprica city unmolested.
Below, Helo and Boomer discuss their situation. “You don’t have feelings, you have software.” “We were important” says Boomer. “It brought us closer to God. Beyond that I genuinely feel something for you.” “I don’t care, I don’t love you” he says. “There’s something you should know… I’m pregnant.”
Apollo’s striketeam moves in for the assault as Boomer and Racetrack depart for Kobal. Apollo’s team soft-dock, as Roslin briefs her advisors and reporters that an attack may be imminent. Billy refuses to go… as the sound of someone cutting through the hull is reported.
On Caprica Kara has landed outside the museum; she enters and begins to look for the Arrow of Apollo; she takes anti-radiation meds to help her survive and moves deeper inside.
Boomer and Racetrack arrive alongside the Basestar; Raiders emerge but don’t molest them. They head toward it.
On Kobal, the survivors pick themselves up and try to organise and help the wounded. Crashdown and Tyrol discuss what to do – make for the high ground or stay low? Crashdown is indecisive.
Boomer and Racetrack try to launch the nuke – it won’t release, it’s jammed. Boomer says they have to dock and land inside the Basestar and they can trigger it manually. They move in…
Baltar wakes to the sight of Six. “You saved me” he says. “Care to return the favour?” she says “You wondered why you were chosen? Now is the time to find out why…” Six leads him by the hand and they walk towards the ruins…
On Colonial One, Roslin, her advisors and security force wait for the Striketeam. They will not yield. “So be it” says Adama… Roslin stands tall and awaits her fate.
Kara is deep in the museum; she has found the arrow; she shatters the case…. Six leads Baltar… Kara takes the arrow… Six appears behind her… She and Kara tussle, Kara fires but Six evades her…
Boomer enters the Basestar, it has strange, manufactured but organic-looking configurations. They land. Boomer exits to release the bomb manually.
Kara hunts Six in the museum; Six appears again, knocks the gun from her hand and they fight hand to hand. Six is the stronger, ramming Kara into statues…
The Striketeam enter, Tigh and Adama in the lead, to a face-off…
Boomer releases the bomb… and walks off, deeper into the Basestar! Figures approach – they say “Sharon” – there are multiple Boomers!
Six taunts Kara… they fight. Kara is losing… Six grabs the arrow… Helo enters… Six is surprised allowing Kara to rush her. Six and Kara topple over into a deep vault.
Tigh tells Roslin she is under arrest… and Lee draws his gun on Tigh. He tells him this is not right and he must order the striketeam to withdraw. “This is mutiny” says Tigh. “Tell my father I am following my instincts. We can’t surrender our democracy because the President makes a bad decision.” Roslin intervenes and surrenders. Lee is disarmed.
Boomer and the Sharons… They tell her they know she is confused and scared. “I’m not a Cylon!” she says. “You can’t fight destiny they tell her. Whatever happens we love you Sharon. We’ll see you again…” Boomer flees back to the Raptor and they leave at speed. The Sharons examine the nuke - and it goes off! Boom!
Tigh calls Adama and tells him of Lee’s mutiny. “Bring him here. And put Roslin in the brig.” Boomer jumps back – mission accomplished. “Come on home”, says Adama.
On Caprica. Helo helps Kara gets up, from on top of the dead Six, the arrow through her (and a rebar from the ruins.) They greet each other, warmly. Kara sees Boomer – “She’s a Cylon!” and fires, but Helo deflects her aim. You can’t says Helo – "No, she’s pregnant." Kara collapses in tears.
Baltar and Six walk among the ruins on Kobol. “I know this place” says Baltar. They enter a building… and are back inside it as it once was. It is the Opera House. “Life has a melody and its notes are played in harmony with God’s plan” she says “Realise your destiny. You are the guardian and protector of the new generation of God’s children. The first member of our family will be with us soon. It's time to make your choice. See the face and the shape of things to come.” They climb on the stage and look into a crib (and what do they see?)… He gasps. They kiss.
On Galactica, Adama visits Roslin in the brig. Boomer comes back to the bridge. Adama appears, Lee is there, in handcuffs now. Adama congratulates Boomer and Racetrack for obeying orders.. he reaches out to shake hands - and Boomer’s hand comes up with a gun and shoots him twice in the guts. This is intercut with scenes of Six and Baltar kissing. Chaos on the bridge.
Fade out with a bloodied Adama lying on the chart table, in Lee's arms…
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Post by kingfish on Jan 24, 2005 18:07:22 GMT -5
We're going to have to have some new characters for the 2nd season or at least find out if a current one is really a Cylon as even if Helo does not get back to Galactica Starbuck certainly will and with Boomer Outing herself that means the Colonials will know all the humanoid cylons that we do and that's no fun I vote for Racetrack to be a Cylon Also thinking about it Tigh's going to be the centre of the show next season Adama's Dead or in a coma, Apollo is in the Brig, Roslin is in the Brig, Boomer is in the Brig and Starbuck will be put in the Brig when she gets back. Might need a bigger Brig ;D This sounds like a good set up for the return of Tom Zarek. Hatch mentioned it in an interview. |
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Post by pudge on Jan 24, 2005 18:12:53 GMT -5
Don't forget Commander Cain. He could be Adama's long term replacement if EJO does not sign up for a second season.
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Post by kingfish on Jan 24, 2005 18:15:36 GMT -5
Don't forget Commander Cain. He could be Adama's long term replacement if EJO does not sign up for a second season. Without Olmos you have no show. Who is playing Cain? |
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Post by ernestborg9 on Jan 24, 2005 18:21:00 GMT -5
Without Olmos you have no show. Who is playing Cain? No-one. It is by no means certain that the Pegasus will show up at all. RDM has admitted to toying around with it for "the last two years" but currently has NO definitive storyline with which to introduce it - which is not to say he won't have in the future. The only thing he has categorically stated is that outside of the possible appearance of the Pegasus, NO other battlestars will be appearing. |
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Post by pudge on Jan 24, 2005 18:22:36 GMT -5
As I mentioned earlier, Babylon 5 managed to survive a major character change after season one. I'm sure they'll get an accomplished actor on par with EJO if he doesn't sign up.
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Post by ernestborg9 on Jan 24, 2005 18:24:14 GMT -5
I reckon there's plenty of raptors. Look at how many helicopters one aircraft carrier can carry. Just because a handful are airborne does not mean the fulll compiment is in use. Agreed. However, there is still Adama's orders in "Water": he want them ALL "in the air"and five go. Tends to suggest that, as with her Vipers, Galactica was short-handed with Raptors. Anyway, not something to get hung-up on. |
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