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Post by waerth on Jan 20, 2005 0:00:15 GMT -5
Wow Languatron must be happy he is in the States. Some of the drivel he is posting is so personally insulting (read the thingy about KR) that here in BKK at best he would have been taken to court to take it down and pay damages ...... at worst he would end up being a statistic.
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Post by waerth on Jan 19, 2005 4:51:30 GMT -5
Ok offcourse unrealistic me wants 50, 365 episode seasons ..... covering me for the rest of my lifetime.
Realistic me figures 4 - 5 seasons.
I hope they will have slightly more episodes ... I think 15 - 18 episodes would be nice. I also hope they would kick off every season with a miniseries on top of those episodes. The miniseries being an excuse to splash a bit of money around on special effects.
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Post by waerth on Jan 19, 2005 5:23:39 GMT -5
man, ignoring the basic, as you said, "porn value" of that scene, I'd pay MONEY to watch the country go through the collective siezures it would inflict... TEXT I have to say that I would pay money as well. What is it with when two people love eachother and it is shown on television it is a bad thing. I feel that if it is shown in a passing way withouth it being flashed like was said before by someone else (major social comment) it could be done. Indeed the fact that we are discussing it means that there are still problems with it culturally. W 39 posts ....
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Post by waerth on Jan 19, 2005 5:19:29 GMT -5
This topic has been fun to watch evolve in the internet community.... Especially considering that the people on these boards represent an international community; from rural middle America, to urban U.S. , to Canada, South America, Britain and the Phillipines! Amazing...... Phillipines ? Where did you see posters from the Phillipines ? W Bangkok, Thailand and yes I love Boomer ...... we got so many like her here ;D
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Post by waerth on Jan 19, 2005 7:10:15 GMT -5
Now this plan 3 I could totally see in what was shown sofar ..... . Thx for reacting btw it is always nice to have a friendly discussion! W
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Post by waerth on Jan 19, 2005 6:55:46 GMT -5
I think if you look at the stats it is quite telling. 2. The cylons have engineered the attack so that ships that are left have cylons aboard with an objective in mind. I personally have thought 2 for some time. As point 1 are my thoughts exactly ..... lets dig into point 2 /me sound of rummaging in a shed .... ah found /me comes out with a shovel ..... The only thing that I see in favour of you theory is ...... if you want to kill of all humans you also want the 13th tribe that went to earth. But ...... There is an easier way to handle that .... traitors. No matter what rhe cylons have done, every society will have its collaborators. So all they had to do is screen the survivors for people willing to collaborate in exchange for survival. They would probably find quite a few willing. And have them search for earth under cylon guidance. Now why I think point 2 is impossible. 1) How could the cylons have predicted all ships gathering around Galactica? Another one could have survived. 2)Why shoot nukes at it if you want it to survive. I mean you cannot really control rockets and let them not hit Galacica and its fleet. So why throw so much ordinance at her and the fleet. Part might hit the fleet and stop them right there. End of your plan 3)How would the cylons have predicted for there to be a new president? Etc. etc. Now if you argue that after episode 33 the cylons had a change of heart I would be able to see your point. That would absolutely be possible. Waerth
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Post by waerth on Jan 19, 2005 5:44:59 GMT -5
Well here it is post number 40 I am going for ensign now While this is off the original topic of Matt's reply (to Wareth's claim the Cylons only want to totally annihilate the fleet) Kof kof ..... it is Waerth ..... (probably only one on the whole internet, wherever you see one it is me Yes I still adhere to that claim as I like the KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid) principle a lot. Cylon plan was very simple ........ destroy all colonists. They hadn't really thought there would be much of a resistance Than ...... frack ...... they realised they fucked up so they came up with plan B. Which might/might not involve herding the colonists to earth. I still think plan B is not that though, I think plan B is simply annialate at earliest possible point using whatever possible means to herd the colonials to a place where the cylon fleet will be waiting ..., so they can finish their jobs. That is why imho they are using the prophecies to get them to Kobol. The Galactica was parked in a known location and has a distinctive appearance, Colonial one is a spaceliner of a known type travelling a line between the BG and Caprica, it has exterior markings to identify it. BG also had some kind of Cylon device onboard placed there by one of Roslyns staff, might there also have been one on Colonial 1? both ships have cylons onboard. The other ships of the fleet don't much matter. Colonial one wasn't colonial one untill halfway down the miniseries. You say they planned it from the getgo. Impossible as neither Roslin was president nor current colonial one was colonial one. Why not let Edar escape if you planned that. No way they could have predicted Roslin becoming president. Also all of the fleet was "parked at known locations". Remember that Roslin under guidance of Doral did try to install a networked system on Galactica BEFORE the attack? They also knew that they would destroy all of Galacica's Mark VII's and they would have also known Galactica would have destroyed her ammo. No way they could have predicted Galactica would re-arm it's Mark II's. In the cylons mind Galactica was unarmed and harmless. See how they went for all "difficult" targets firstand after that mopped up what they considered non dangerous targets. Again KISS ...... the cylon plan fracked up as all plans do more or less on some points. They never calculated the Galactica being able to resist ..... so after it did resist they had to come up with plan B which is what you usually do when plan A fails. BG needs ammo, all other sources of ammo have been destroyed. Nowhere in the mini did it say all other ammo dumps had been destroyed! Thigh simply plotted a course to the one closest by. They couldn't, had Starbuck died they would have tried some other way to deliver a raider and kept trying until they succeeded. Why deliver a raider??? So the colonials get acces to their technology and can learn from it ...... nah! why did the raiders attack rather than fetch the entire cylon fleet? Something to do with computer code maybe, they only saw the vipers presumably not the galactica. how did a raider with its brains shot out land successfully on the moon rather than pancake in? No answer ......... writers ? If Starbuck heads off in a random direction on an unihabited moon what are the odds she will find a spaceworthy ship? Almost zero she would have needed years to scout that moon on foot. Look at how much terrain the vipers could cover on the basis of the pictures they took. I think that was a bloody large moon. So they could have never planned that. This is all accidental, nothing planned. Just like in real life! Dorralls alleged target was Baltars lab. Why use Dorall for that when Boomer is in a much better position to do it. Dorall was supposed to fail. No matter what the target is Boomer, being one of the crew, would have a better chance of reaching it then Dorrall who is a civilan. Boomer was already risking being discovered by helping Dorrall so why not do the whole job? Because he was spotted before he could actually get to wherever his target was. He would have never gotten any further. Also do not forget Boomer is a weak model so if I were the cylons I would not put all my eggs in the Boomer basket Sigh and now back to wikipedia Waerth
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Post by waerth on Jan 18, 2005 3:05:42 GMT -5
First of all a wonderfull great episode. It had me at the edge of my sofa. I loved it when Roslin and Six answered in choir.
Now to all the comments that people make that the cylons planned this from the beginning ......... Bullocks.
I do not believe that. The plan was to wipe everybody out in the mini.
How could they have planned for those exact ships to survive?
How could they have planned for the Galactica to go to Ragnar Anchorage?
How could the cylons have planned for Starbucks viper to have an accident, have Starbuck survive it and fly back with the Raider?
I don't believe it and there are so many more instances.
Why didn't Sharon bomb the propulsion? Because she couldn't reach it!
Why didn't Dorrall do it? Because he bumped into Tigh and Adama.
Now offcourse if you are faced with your enemy running you need to herd them somewhere. And what better place than Kobol and wait for them there.
I believe that there are Cylon sleepers on the fleet. But I do not believe that the bodies they are in would be equiped with powerfull enough transmitters to tell the cylons where the fleet is, they might have "shortrange" ones though. They would need a ships radio for long range transmissions. That is why they used the Olympic carrier in 33.
As we noticed earlier on Galactica now registers all outgoing wireless traffic ...... (Dualla about Adama making secret radio calls, they got logged). So as soon as strange radio signals would be broadcasted from the fleet the cylon would expose him/herself. That is why it has not happened since.
Now why Leoben. How come he tries to guide them Kobol you ask me ....... well here is my theory.
A receiver has to be less powerfull than a transmitter and would go relatively undetected. So the cylons just make a massbroadcast and their sleepers wherever the hell they are get informed and now what to do. Itsa so simple.
Waerth
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Post by waerth on Jan 11, 2005 22:21:17 GMT -5
I would rather not see people posting urls to bt sites. Please exchange them through PM.
Yes I am downloading also, but with the number of bt sites that got taken down recently that I get my files from I hate to propagate their existance on public boards.
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Post by waerth on Jan 9, 2005 23:40:32 GMT -5
The more I am looking at the pictures on Gateworld the more I am wondering as to how this episode will be. With all the shots of them walking on green lawns and stuff .........
Is it a spaceship they are on? Or what ..........
Waerth ..... on his way to get 40 posts
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Post by waerth on Jan 8, 2005 9:52:24 GMT -5
Gotcha, you just gave me an excuse to watch it for the xxxxxxth time. The people on the Dutch wikipedia will hate this as BSG TNS has cut significantly in my hours of writing.
I really haven't watched that much tv in the last six years since thai tv is all dubbed in thai. Only occasionally do I watch star movies from HK or go to the theatre. Most of my free time was spend on the internet (wikidia) or reading books and the occasional trip upcountry.
Now especially for BSG TNS I installed some file (censored) software. And I have watched a lot more tv ever since .....
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Post by waerth on Jan 8, 2005 9:12:41 GMT -5
But on the other hand what was added was great too - the whole scene with Adama finding Lee in his quarters, crying over the picture of his mother and brother, was a pivital moment in their relationship and spoke of the beginning of more of an understanding between the two of them that was important to get across in the mini (and yet it also showed there was a large gap still to traverse). Huh I never saw that scene and I watched the whole movie copy from Sky One. Did they also cut pieces out for that version?? Anyway, thx Larocque for posting this. W
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Post by waerth on Dec 26, 2004 3:05:34 GMT -5
Nope it hasn't aired in the UK yet. Just some site claiming they have laid their hands on a copy of the episode. The episode will air in the UK on the First monday after new years if I am correct. That should be January 3rd 2005. They had a 3 weeks break after episode 9.
Waerth
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Post by waerth on Dec 26, 2004 22:46:12 GMT -5
You are right about that. It is very annoying for those whom haven't seen it yet. It is a real problem in this regards in that it hasn't aired in the States yet. It will be a bigger problem when they come online after they have viewed the first episode.
Maybe Xenu could put up a special section for the American viewers in which it is forbidden to post spoilers about episodes already viewed by others like myself. If they start posting in this same section spoilers will inevitably be read. (I wouldn't post any spoilers btw)
Waert
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Post by waerth on Jan 5, 2005 12:19:41 GMT -5
I fifth it ;D
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