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Post by Xenu on Jan 22, 2005 7:41:06 GMT -5
This thread is to list all the known differences between the US & UK broadcasts of BSG. Aside from the obvious change in the opening music & credits, tonight I noticed a new scene in Bastille Day. In the scene where Starbuck is briefing the flight team in the ready room, after she announces that one of the pilots has been coming in hot (Flast-Top) and begins chastising him for it, in the US version she made a joke about Flat-Top coming in hot because he was anxious to get back to his bunk to be alone with his left hand. Seems the masturbatory reference was clipped for the UK airing, so the censors have been friendlier to the US so far, it seems. Keep your eyes peeled & post more, folks!
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Post by maddog101 on Jan 22, 2005 7:48:06 GMT -5
sky 1 show it before the water shed at 8 pm and scifi show it after the watershed at 10 pm and althow in ireland that would get through the cencor in the uk they donot play with themselfs you know (no sex please we are brit's) ;D ;D ;D ;DTEXT
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Post by Basestar on Jan 22, 2005 18:09:03 GMT -5
Well, Sky also repeat it at 5pm and though I haven't watched them all at that time, I haven't noticed any edits. Indeed I'm pretty sure I saw the repeat of Secrets and Lies and it had all the Tigh-Ellen groping etc. still in there.
Since after Christmas there has been a Sky Mix showing at 10pm - someone has posted at Skiffy that episodes then have had some scenes not shown at 8pm. Again, anyone confirm this? I am very sceptical - Sky would surely trail the fact?
In other words: Is 5pm edited against 8pm and 8pm edited against 10pm in the UK? And even if it is, are those edits local, or does the "unedited" include stuff shown in the US?
I think 9pm is the offical "watershed" but sometimes Sky do make announcements that subscription channels have an 8pm one, not 9pm. True of Sky 1?
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Post by bluegreenturtle on Jan 22, 2005 22:36:22 GMT -5
Hmmm, weird. I would think (as an american) that the US versions would surely be more edited rather than less since we have so many issues with "obscene" broadcasting, etc, especially these days. My impression was always that the UK was a bit more relaxed about it.
Or that the US versions would allow more violence and the UK versions more sex.
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Post by cobywan on Jan 22, 2005 23:57:19 GMT -5
"Broadcast" doesn't apply to cable. At least not as strictly.
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Post by Blade Runner on Jan 23, 2005 5:15:44 GMT -5
Apparently on the later repeated airings on Sky there is no editing
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Post by Basestar on Jan 23, 2005 6:25:06 GMT -5
I'm really not sure that this is just the circularity of rumour - apparently.
What proof is there that the 10pm Sky Mix showings - aren't they an innovation only since Christmas? - contain footage not in the 8pm premiere?
None as far as I know. I can't believe that fans in the UK who gobble it up and watch repeats even though they've taped it, would not have noticed and posted - not one?
That doesn't mean that the edit we know of in Ep3, where the US did get different dialogue isn't real - but it might mean we never saw it in any timeslot?
As for cuts from 8pm to 5pm, this seems more credible and I'd be interested to know if Sky moved the repeat to that timeslot deliberately to get a younger audience and edited for such. But, the only episode I can recall seeing in that slot didn't seem edited?
Surely someone must know more.
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Post by Blade Runner on Jan 23, 2005 6:30:10 GMT -5
I suppose we are going to have to wait for the fully unedited version when the DVD comes out
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Post by Crashdown on Jan 23, 2005 9:20:18 GMT -5
Well, Sky also repeat it at 5pm and though I haven't watched them all at that time, I haven't noticed any edits. Indeed I'm pretty sure I saw the repeat of Secrets and Lies and it had all the Tigh-Ellen groping etc. still in there. Since after Christmas there has been a Sky Mix showing at 10pm - someone has posted at Skiffy that episodes then have had some scenes not shown at 8pm. Again, anyone confirm this? I am very sceptical - Sky would surely trail the fact? In other words: Is 5pm edited against 8pm and 8pm edited against 10pm in the UK? And even if it is, are those edits local, or does the "unedited" include stuff shown in the US? I think 9pm is the offical "watershed" but sometimes Sky do make announcements that subscription channels have an 8pm one, not 9pm. True of Sky 1? Yesterday, I caught the 5pm version and I'm fairly sure that the pre-titles section was editted from what I saw on Monday. Of the other parts that I saw both times around, I didn't notice anything missing. (avoiding saying what bit was editted to avoid spoilers, but I think for those who have seen the episode, it should be fairly obvious)
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Post by Spassvogel on Jan 23, 2005 19:49:44 GMT -5
Does SkyOne have commercial breaks?
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Post by Blade Runner on Jan 23, 2005 20:14:27 GMT -5
Does SkyOne have commercial breaks? Spass Yes to my eternal frustration
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Post by Spassvogel on Jan 23, 2005 22:32:39 GMT -5
YOu know, I wonder whether they made the US versions different or "uncut" as it were, or replaced scenes that were originally on the cutting room floor just to make all the peple who downloaded have a reason to watch it on Sci-Fi.
It's sorta the reverse of Japanese CD imports, which usually have extra tracks.
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Post by ernestborg9 on Jan 24, 2005 21:09:09 GMT -5
Well, Sky also repeat it at 5pm and though I haven't watched them all at that time, I haven't noticed any edits. Indeed I'm pretty sure I saw the repeat of Secrets and Lies and it had all the Tigh-Ellen groping etc. still in there. Since after Christmas there has been a Sky Mix showing at 10pm - someone has posted at Skiffy that episodes then have had some scenes not shown at 8pm. Again, anyone confirm this? I am very sceptical - Sky would surely trail the fact? In other words: Is 5pm edited against 8pm and 8pm edited against 10pm in the UK? And even if it is, are those edits local, or does the "unedited" include stuff shown in the US? I think 9pm is the offical "watershed" but sometimes Sky do make announcements that subscription channels have an 8pm one, not 9pm. True of Sky 1? Sky do tinker with things for different time slots. A good example is the "prequel" for Season 4 of 24. When shown after 10:00pm, the prequel has Jack Bauer saying "Frak you" (or similar) to his CTU boss. In versions shown earlier in the evening, the line is completely cut. They don't always trailer differences in aired versions.
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Post by mjm800 on Jan 25, 2005 20:07:19 GMT -5
Has Moore addressed why they changed the theme music? Is this something normally done? I cannot believe that the Star Trek: TNG theme is different from North America to Europe; however, in the case of Enterprise that may be a good thing. ;D
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Post by Basestar on Jan 25, 2005 20:54:13 GMT -5
There's an interview on MediaBlvd and Sci-Fi. In essence, Gibbs wrote a theme (the UK theme) which he didn't like much himself because he was asked to match a temp-track (done from existing music, and not Gibbs stuff) Moore and Eick had put on the edit. He wanted to use themes from the mini. But he did it.
Months pass; Bonnie Hammer, exec of Sci-Fi doesn't like the theme, finds it too downbeat and asks for a re-draft. Gibbs has a go, but gets pissed off and hands it over to Bear McCreary, who does the music for the show proper.
Verdict? Not just Hammer who messed with the music - Gibbs seems clear that Moore & Eick were temp-track hounds (many producers are) and messed Gibbs around too.
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