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Post by Blade Runner on Dec 2, 2004 0:20:56 GMT -5
why dont you slow it down with the player
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ady86245
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Post by ady86245 on Dec 2, 2004 13:34:39 GMT -5
heh, i also know who the next president will be. hint: i'll be back!  Hilary Clinton? ;D I believe Arnie's ineligible as he's Austrian - not American. |
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Post by Blade Runner on Dec 2, 2004 13:39:26 GMT -5
Hilary Clinton? ;D I believe Arnie's ineligible as he's Austrian - not American. And a wanker by the sounds of things ;D |
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Post by ady86245 on Dec 2, 2004 14:05:32 GMT -5
And a wanker by the sounds of things ;D Who - Me or Arnie?  |
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Post by Blade Runner on Dec 2, 2004 14:07:25 GMT -5
Who - Me or Arnie? Him not you  |
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loserpatrol
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Post by loserpatrol on Dec 2, 2004 22:48:19 GMT -5
a constitutional amendment is made in 2006. but now that you mention it, out of the 3 trips ive made, hillary had it once, and arnie had it twice. such is the nature of time travel, the future is never certain. |
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Post by Alan on Dec 3, 2004 0:36:10 GMT -5
I believe Arnie's ineligible as he's Austrian - not American. Don't want to be a nitpicker, but Arnie is indeed an American. He's a US citizen, as much as any other American. The problem is that the Constitution requires not merely citizenship, but also native birth on US soil. IMHO this restriction is flat-out prejudice. Such a restriction made sense back in 1789, when they were worried about the chief executive's loyalty to a newly-created country, but the day for such a restriction is long passed. Arnie isn't the first state governor to be foreign-born, and he won't be the last. Wasn't Gov. Jennifer Granholm of Michigan born in Canada? Under the Constitution, she can't run for President either. And of course, Henry Kissinger (a VERY capable American) was likewise inelligible. Silly! The American voters should be able to elect foreign-born citizens if they want to. For extra credit: which four US Presidents were not born within the United States of America? |
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Post by Conundrum on Dec 3, 2004 3:08:33 GMT -5
and Who is to say someone today may have other allegiances. Don't call something prejudice just because you don't like it.
No amendments to disallow gay marriage...
No amendments to change who can be pres.
We don't need The Governator as The Presinator.
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Post by Xenu on Dec 3, 2004 3:24:50 GMT -5
Arnold's views are actually pretty much in line with mine; socially pretty liberal but fiscally & legislatively pretty conservative. I might vote for him... |
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Post by Alan on Dec 3, 2004 3:51:29 GMT -5
and Who is to say someone today may have other allegiances. Don't call something prejudice just because you don't like it. Feel free to question Arnold's political positions, or his morals, or his skills, or his acting ability ;D or anything else you like. I disagree with him about a few things myself! But if you tell me that people born in Austria shouldn't be President just because they were born in Austria, I shall call that by its proper name: prejudice. Any time you decide that somebody can't do something because of the circumstances of their birth (race, gender, social class, nationality, etc) it's prejudice. Some Austrians are loyal, others aren't... just like some Americans are loyal and others aren't! You have to judge people as individuals, not as groups. The Constitution should not bar naturalized citizens from running for elected office. IMHO, of course. ;D "Sarah Connor?"
"Yes?"
"Are you a registered voter?"
"Um, no..."*BLAM* *BLAM* *BLAM* *BLAM* *BLAM* |
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Post by Conundrum on Dec 3, 2004 3:56:16 GMT -5
Its not prejudice, and repeatedly saying that won't make it so. Its a emotionally charged word people use to try to envoke emotions instead of discussion.
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Post by Xenu on Dec 3, 2004 3:59:55 GMT -5
I hate to have to be the Govuhnator here , but lets not get too political on this thread....that's not really the topic so much  |
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Post by Alan on Dec 3, 2004 4:13:25 GMT -5
No problem, Xenu. We'll take it offline.  |
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loserpatrol
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Post by loserpatrol on Dec 3, 2004 10:12:49 GMT -5
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Post by loserpatrol on Dec 4, 2004 12:30:52 GMT -5
For extra credit: which four US Presidents were not born within the United States of America? i looked, i really did. but now im feeling lazy and since the fate of New York isnt hanging in the ballance, i think you should just tell me. my stepdad guessed the first 4. i would think anyone born before July 4, 1776, which would be the first 7. |
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