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Post by MattLee on Jan 24, 2005 17:49:53 GMT -5
So, with series one over is there any further speculation on who #6 was addressing in the mini?
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Post by Big Brother on Jan 25, 2005 5:16:44 GMT -5
As I see it, these are the possibilities...
1.) She was talking to "God", or whatever voice-in-her head passes for God. I seem to recall quoted snippets of the script saying that she was supposed to look up to the heavens at that point. Since the traditional image of the one-true-God of the monotheist sort is always everywhere, this seems to argue against the idea that the Cylon God is indeed the one-true-God in the sense of Allah/Jehovah/Yahweh of thirteenth-tribe mythos.
2.) She was talking to another Cylon agent of a known squishy-Cylon model (Doral, Boomer, Leoben, Six). Maybe she was checking in with her boss, maybe she was the boss to whom the other Cylon was reporting. Maybe they were just meeting to exchange messages.
3.) She was talking to another Cylon agent of a squishy-Cylon model not yet revealed to the audience. Perhaps if and when Starbuck/Gaeta/whomever is revealed to be another Cylon sleeper agent, we'll see that scene in flashback as a copy of them talks to Six in that plaza. This is the theory I personally support, although I have no strong feelings as to whom among the established cast, if anyone, she was talking to (could be just a placeholder for whenever they get around to casting some new Cylon models).
4.) She was talking to another non-Cylon human traitor, willing or unwilling. Perhaps it was the lawyer she'd hired in her human persona. Perhaps it was her tax accountant. Perhaps it was her agent. Perhaps it was some former boyfriend she was blackmailing. Whether this person knew they were working for the Cylons or not, it was some human who she was giving orders as part of her overall mission.
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Post by MHall on Jan 25, 2005 9:12:55 GMT -5
Try this theory on for size...
Six is meeting Six. The Six that Baltar has been screwing for 2 years needs to get off the planet ASAP, because she is pregnant (finally!) A non-pregnant Six will stay with Baltar to protect him from nukes with her legs.
I read through the script again, and I don't see any reason why the Six after that point cannot be a new Six. But even more mind-blowing is that perhaps the two Sixes could have traded minds. We haven't seen that this is possible, but assume it is. Now pregnant Six is no longer inhabited by the Six Baltar knew. The pregnant Six body leaves, while the mind of the Six known by Baltar is still there, in a new body, until the nuke kills her, and then her consciousness is transferred to yet another body. Then she could transfer back to the pregnant body, to be later reunited with Baltar.
Congratulations Baltar, you're a father! It's... a Cylon!
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Post by Big Brother on Jan 26, 2005 0:42:19 GMT -5
I like it. I had originally intended to include a line in my post about onlookers assuming it was a pair of twins or even just sisters (no reason for the two Sixes to dress alike or style their hair the same, the identically-dressed Leobens in the final scene in the Mini was a real annoyance to me) if Six was meeting another Cylon of the sixth model. Somehow it got left out when actually typing up my reply (was probably interrupted by an IM or a good scene on the BSG tape I was watching on my VCR).
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Post by ladyrheena on Jan 26, 2005 4:35:06 GMT -5
Six is meeting Six. The Six that Baltar has been screwing for 2 years needs to get off the planet ASAP, because she is pregnant (finally!) A non-pregnant Six will stay with Baltar to protect him from nukes with her legs. That theory is a good size. It fits well. Kudos! ;D
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Post by MattLee on Jan 26, 2005 7:37:06 GMT -5
ditto.
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Post by pudge on Jan 26, 2005 7:43:54 GMT -5
Excellent theory about the two sixes!!! It's a whole lot better than the original draft when it was an oldschool toaster she adressed.
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Post by MHall on Jan 26, 2005 8:02:19 GMT -5
Over on scifi.com, LordAgrona wrote But he posted that after I made my post here. I just don't want you to think I stole the idea from him.
Shoot, you are right about the original script, ick. Here it is...
WOMAN I have to go. I'm meeting someone. BALTAR Really. Who is he? I'm insanely jealous. WOMAN I doubt that. BALTAR So touchy tonight. Well, I'm meeting someone too -- business. New project at Defense I might do. Anyway -- call you tomorrow. 'Bye. He gives her a quick kiss on the cheek and heads off. She watches him go with an enigmatic, thoughtful expression. Then she hears something -- turns, reacts to someone o.c. WOMAN It's about time. I wondered when you'd get here. CLOSE ON A CYLON Right out of the 1970's show. Red-eyed visor, chrome body suit, the whole thing.
That sucks. I hope they changed to the more mysterious version in the script because of rewriting who is being met, rather than simply not having the budget to make a working classic toaster (or trying and deciding it didn't look good enough, with the toaster winding up on the cutting room floor.)
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Post by pudge on Jan 26, 2005 10:16:51 GMT -5
I'm also glad that the oldschool toaster idea was dropped. Come to think of it, I hope there will be no appearance of these models if the show is renewed; it would be too cheesy. Moore might have these guys in a cgi background shot on a basestar but that's all I hope. They may well be reduced to throwing out the thrash!!!
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Post by ladyrheena on Jan 27, 2005 4:35:53 GMT -5
I'm also glad that the oldschool toaster idea was dropped. I don't think it would have really worked AT ALL. I mean, human-looking folk wandering around on Caprica are fine, but if it was an old Cylon toaster I'm sure someone would have noticed and perhaps reported it to the authorities. At least I hope so!
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Post by MHall on Jan 27, 2005 6:41:38 GMT -5
I just watched the mini-series again last night, and I saw that they went from the public scene on the planet, "I wondered when you'd get here," to a close-up of the Cylon in the museum on Galactica. So I took another look at the early script, and I see I should have read further...
WOMAN It's about time. I wondered when you'd get here. CLOSE ON A CYLON Right out of the 1970's show. Red-eyed visor, chrome body suit, the whole thing. ELOSHA (prelap) ... with humility and piety we ask for your blessing, oh Lords of Kobol... REVEAL: INT. GALACTICA - STARBOARD HANGAR DECK - MUSEUM A redress of the Port hangar deck, this is the exact same facility with one major exception -- it has been converted into a MUSEUM. There are glass-encased DISPLAYS scattered throughout the room and one of them contains the Cylon we just saw. Signage in the Cylon case tells us it's a "Soldier Prototype" developed by the Colonials some 50 years ago, etc. There are a DOZEN or so other CYLONS in various display cases, along with drawings, photos, etc.
Phew, my faith in the writers is restored! Whomever Six was meeting, we know she wasn't meeting the Cylon in the museum on Galactica! It was supposed to be a little trick on the audience, and quickly revealed as such. It didn't work that well as shot, because Six was in strong daylight, while the Cylon was in a dark museum inside a display case and without the moving red light.
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Post by ladyrheena on Jan 27, 2005 7:13:46 GMT -5
Ah-ha! Phew indeed. That would have been a boo-boo of major proportions. ;D
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Post by caseOrange on Jan 27, 2005 11:25:18 GMT -5
So now that we know who the writers intended Six to be talking to, the question is: why? Why a toaster Cylon? i agree with ladyrheena that i don't think it would have worked having an old Cylon (which the humans fought 40 yrs ago) standing there in broad daylight. i originally thought that she might have seen the Cylon basestar coming into view over Caprica. Then i thought maybe it was the "soul", so to speak, of the Six that was on the armistice station, finally arriving to enter Baltar-Six's consciousness (that's why the next scene we see her in, she is telling Baltar, "I have something to tell you"). But the writer's idea boggles my mind. It makes no sense whatsoever.
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Post by pudge on Jan 27, 2005 12:08:16 GMT -5
My mistake also, should have read the script properly. But then again it was two years ago. I reckon it was a pizza delivery guy, this version of Six is pregant with a craving for Domino's Come to think of it, maybe they're called Apollo's pizza on Caprica!
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Post by MHall on Jan 28, 2005 7:09:49 GMT -5
No, no. Read my second post. In both the original script and the actual mini-series, they cut from the "It's about time you got here" line on Caprica to a close-up of the toaster in the Galactica's museum. So, we don't know who she met.
I'd love to see that scene again as part of the "Previously on Battlestar Galactica" snippets next season, and then in the episode we would finally learn who Six was meeting. (Hopefully, Six.)
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