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Post by Blade Runner on Nov 21, 2004 15:47:53 GMT -5
Litmus# Original airdate: 22nd Nov 2004 # US. Airdate: 11th Feb 2005 # Production Number: 106 # Filming dates: June 16, 2004 - June 24, 2004 # Executive Producers: Ronald D. Moore, David Eick # Written by: Jeff Vlaming # Directed by: Rod K. Hardy # Co-Starring: Michael Hogan, Ty Olsson, Grace Park, Alessandro Juliani, Tahmoh Penikett, Kandyse McClure,Aaron Douglas, Alonso Oyarzun, Nicki Clyne, Paul Campbell, Connor Widdows, Sam Witwer, Lorena Gale, Barclay Hope, Ron Blecker Synopsis:Billy holds his first press conference for the President, while Sharon and Tyrol slip away for a tryst. Amid the hubbub at the end of the day, a suicide bomber slips through security and blows himself up. The attack on board the Galactica reveals that the enemy agents can be indistinguishable from humans, prompting a tribunal inquiry that puts Valerii and Tyrol on the spot.
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Post by ady86245 on Nov 21, 2004 15:51:46 GMT -5
A synopsis about an episode that hasn't even aired yet. Can I borrow your Tardis when you've finished with it?
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Post by Blade Runner on Nov 21, 2004 15:58:28 GMT -5
A synopsis about an episode that hasn't even aired yet. Can I borrow your Tardis when you've finished with it? ok here you go click to enter the vortex BTW its to encourage discussions ;D
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Post by ady86245 on Nov 22, 2004 14:45:25 GMT -5
What about a post during an advert break Helo REALLY needs to get his eyes tested.
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Post by Werrf on Nov 22, 2004 14:49:59 GMT -5
What about a post during an advert break Helo REALLY needs to get his eyes tested. And Adama needs to make up his frackin' mind. He told Hadrian (was that her name?) she had a free rein, but when she used it, he snapped her back.
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Post by Blade Runner on Nov 22, 2004 15:12:06 GMT -5
Still another bloody good episode yet again You can see the storyarc progressing nicely
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Post by ady86245 on Nov 22, 2004 15:12:17 GMT -5
Thoughts as they occur - may contain nuts spoilers:
Wasn't this a rehash of an old ST:TNG episode?
Highlight has to be Six doing a Bruce Banner impersonation. ;D Incidentally, does this mean Six has gone "rogue"?
And can we now finally put the "is Boomer a Cylon" conspiracy theories behind us?
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Post by Blade Runner on Nov 22, 2004 18:57:28 GMT -5
Highlight has to be Six doing a Bruce Banner impersonation. ? when she said don't make me angry, i thought 'no...dont say it', but she did, and as she did I felt the anger would transform into something totally unexpected
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Post by Alan on Nov 23, 2004 2:09:10 GMT -5
Well we knew that eventually the roof would fall in on Boomer and Tyrol... wowie! Still, a lot of interesting stuff happened back in the Caprican storyline, too. After viewing the episode, here are my thoughts, conveniently presented in a totally random order. (1) Adama kept his own security chief in the dark about the Cylons' appearance and capabilities. Um... wasn't that a mistake? (2) It seems unlikely that Socinus (the guy who ended up in the brig for Tyrol's mistake) had access to the explosives back in the episode "Water". Adama and Sgt. Hadrian should still be looking for a Cylon aboard the ship, right? (3) Now that they have "outed" any remaining Doral or Leoben Conoy clones within the fleet (by broadcasting their appearance) they should expect that any remaining clones will act immediately to destroy what they can. Are they ready? (4) Speaking of Sgt. Hadrian (the security chief), Adama just arrested her! Won't that make it harder to establish new security protocols to protect the Galactica in the face of the new threat? (5) Was the Doral-Cylon really heading for Baltar's lab? If so, then it would seem like he wanted Baltar's cylon detector (or Baltar himself) destroyed. Inner-Six on the other hand clearly wants the cylon detector to be completed. That suggests that Inner-Six is working in opposition to the other Cylons. Is that evidence that she's only a delusion, and not a chip at all? (6) Adama should have listened to the President! When it comes to political stuff, she seems to know the ropes. She trusts him on the military stuff, perhaps he should start trusting her on the politics? (7) This whole thing could have gotten really ugly. It all depended on the decision of the grunt standing at the doorway behind Adama! What if he had made the other decision? Yipe! The Galactica's command structure could have started unraveling. (8) Tyrol now has enough information to suspect Boomer. He knows about the missing detonators, and the water tank, and the explosives in the Raptor, and her lapses of memory, and the open hatch which allowed the Doral-Cylon to enter the ship. Furthermore, and has seen (firsthand!) the dangers of trying too hard to protect her. What's his breaking point? How much longer will it take - how much more stuff needs to happen - before Tyrol will finally do his duty and report Boomer? (9) Did Boomer actually leave the hatch open that allowed the Cylon bomber into the ship? If so, does she know that she did? If not, then who? (10) Meanwhile back on Caprica... Interesting stuff! So now it's clear that Valerii is working directly with Six and Doral to trick Helo. But what's their objective? (11) Doral says that Helo will be killed at once if he strikes out alone, without returning to search for Valerii. When it looks like he's going to do that, Six tells Valerii that she has "failed" because Helo doesn't love her. So Valerii's mission (at least at this point) is to make Helo love her. For what purpose? (12) Does this have anything to do with Inner-Six's comment to Baltar that "God is love"? (13) It looks as though this whole sequence (including the previous episode) was a test! Valerii and Helo were separated solely to determine whether Helo would try to save her. But what was being tested? Was it Helo's emotional attachment, or his capacity for love, or Valerii's ability to instill love? (14) If LOVE is step one of their test... then what's step two?? (15) FAVORITE LINE: "you wouldn't like me when I'm angry..." ;D If Inner-Six turns green and muscles pop out everywhere, I'm outta here!
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Post by Helo on Nov 23, 2004 3:19:32 GMT -5
Great ep and in repsponse to Alans views
Yeah it was he said he wasnt sure who to trust but I wouldve thought the security chief would be some1 he knew and trusted..... maybe
Adama did admit that he thought more cylons were on board he also told the the chief that socinus was in the brig for the fact that we was trying to cover for tyrell adam made that obvious as it was tyrells punishment.
Now that they know cylons look like us now I would hope so.
It will yes but in my opinion this was just going back to the point the president was making and underlining it a few times.
It's really hard to say it's being played fantasticaly well by tricia helfer at the moment I still think shes a delusion
See answer to 4.
It could've but I knew that wouldnt happen
I think he kinda knew allready he just loves her to much to beleive it hopefully we'll see something more between them (she being more carefull - him looking at her every move) this should get very good.
I think she may have it's possible another cylons on board
I think that was clear way before that from when cylon boomsher shot no.6 when helo and boomer first "found" each other on caprica, in my opinion there using helo to find a human reaction to better understand us remember everytime six meets a new human she asks are you alive, also cylon boomer commented on helos integrity when he decided to come back for her.
See 10.
Not sure the baltar six stuff is amazing.
See Q's 10 - 12
I think there looking to test the whole range of emotion
I saw it on the sky one trailer I thought no no no but when I watched it with the ep it worked really well full credit to tricia helfer shes fantastic.
Overall I am really enjoying the new BSG lets hope we get a second season.
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Post by Xenu on Nov 23, 2004 5:44:30 GMT -5
Man, what an excellent episode! this one may have been my favorite so far, after "Water". The opening scene with Doral was priceless & perfectly played by all the actors. Anyone else catch the look on Caprica Boomers face when Helo found her & she said "We should go"? It almost gave me the impression that she was glad to be back with him away from the Cylons . Its clear that "love", in some way or another, is something the Cylons seem very intent on researching....wonder why. Also, I wonder what part the Sec. Chief will play in the future. Personally, I was glad to see them lock her away; classic example of a person handed too much power who doesn't need it. I think this episode again re-enforced my belief that Six is not real, but just a figment of Baltar's psyche, especially now with her "explanation" for why she cannot communicate with the other Cylons. So many questions, so much cool stuff....
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Post by Alan on Nov 24, 2004 2:48:14 GMT -5
I think he kinda knew allready he just loves her to much to beleive it hopefully we'll see something more between them (she being more carefull - him looking at her every move) this should get very good. At some point, Chief Tyrol needs to do something about Boomer! Honestly, he has more than enough information now to make any reasonable person very suspicious. The ship has already been endangered by Cylon infiltration four times ("33", "Litmus", and twice in "Water"). How long can Tyrol fool himself??
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Post by LostSol on Nov 24, 2004 15:59:15 GMT -5
Anybody else find is a little weird that there was a room full of journalists when the Prez made her announcement about the humanoid cylons?
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Post by Blade Runner on Nov 24, 2004 16:02:04 GMT -5
Anybody else find is a little weird that there was a room full of journalists when the Prez made her announcement about the humanoid cylons? What else would you be expecting if you was going to make an announcement
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Post by Flippy on Nov 24, 2004 16:13:09 GMT -5
Anybody else find is a little weird that there was a room full of journalists when the Prez made her announcement about the humanoid cylons? nope!
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