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Post by Helo on Dec 10, 2004 5:02:11 GMT -5
God I hope so cos I was thinking it's someone else.
Anyway, I'm really looking forward to this one one, I quite like Colonel Tigh and I'm glad hes getting an episode it will be interesting to see how he plays it if it is indeed
But please let there be more than a few minutes of appollo in it.
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Post by Helo on Dec 9, 2004 9:23:03 GMT -5
Alan Stanley Blair has had a complete turn around with his opinions. I know usualy there are 2 ppl who review BSG Blair and I think Michael Hinman - hinmans are usually pro bsg but blair has slowly been coming around to our way of thinking lets hope it continues
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Post by Helo on Dec 9, 2004 2:27:11 GMT -5
Heres another review this time from SyFy Portal
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Post by Helo on Dec 9, 2004 2:10:50 GMT -5
Actually when how he gripping the phone when he lowered it I actually thought he was gonna beat the crap outa leoban with it!!! for me he was obviously disgusted by whatwas lying in front of him.
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Post by Helo on Dec 8, 2004 10:07:08 GMT -5
In the pilot there was a whole bunch of the models together maybe when one dies any new information/experiences are downloaded to the others for consistency
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Post by Helo on Dec 8, 2004 8:48:13 GMT -5
Maybe it depends on how close a Base Star is
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Post by Helo on Dec 8, 2004 3:26:07 GMT -5
Just saying in case i use both in a sentance I use Cap-Boomer for caprica boomer and Gal-Boomer for Galactica Boomer (saying boomer and valerii is confusing) I really have no clue about this maybe its a side effect of her different approach to medicine - maybe she got chipped (but when) or maye she is telepathic, point 3 does indeed make you wonder that fact and might i say I thought it was cool how they did. Unknown at this point, who knows maybe leoben studied there course and realised that thats where theyd get and in predicting them finding earth maybe theres something on kobol that leads to this goal I agree. Seeing some of the pictures from the last ep I just really cannot wait to see it.. Deffinately I believe so to spread false rumours and provoke in fighting well there are apparently 12 different models and we've seen 4 (leoben, 6, boomer & doral) I woud've like to have seen more develoment of the detecter especially as he needed a nuke. I hope he does keep it a secret I really like Boomer so please keep her around!! We still can't for deffinate say its actually 6 this weeks ep indicated to me that shes become a voice for his consience, i'm still undecided by this. Oh yeah!! I can't wait for the fireworks.. Yup but I doubt adamas a cylon. We've seen what shes like in suspecting people before (baltar) she may have learned not to jump the gun with adama and play it close to her chest, plus I don't think she beleives leoben as nobody can say for sure that they will find kobol, (except the ppl who like spoilers ) he lied about the warhead and she probly didnt even no about what leoben told starbuck. I thought Adama was correct to want to destry the cylon for all he knew the cylon was the warhead - consider the doral models suicide bomb and consider also that Adama took a lebon model down in a very bloody way. Leoben was hugging her - it seemed to me he couldnt quite believe that someone was treating him as an equal - a human, she came in said "whats going on? get him cleaned up" and she talked very nicely and calmly to him also the look on his face when she said airlock certainly showed me leoben was surprised This is another thing I'm not sure of (those wacky writers they just keep ya guessing) obviously Cap-Boomer loves Helo but we still don't know what there goal with Helo is originaly i thought they were testing for a human reaction (my kickback to a farscape ep) but i guess it's possible there attempting to create offspring and create more human models. again this could be possible maybe they want to see how Gal-Boomer will act. It has been the goal when they first hooked up to find a ship of course it would be nuts to stay on caprica but are cylons patroling the skys above who knows? Yeah i've said the same in another thread theres a deffinate role reversal going on. 6 has also talked extensively about religion and god, but yeah he could be the doral model would seem to be giving the orders so far though. They talk about distance being a factor I would think if its the soul it wouldnt matter, also can we say for certain that this leoben model is dead? can cylons survive when being spaced??
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Post by Helo on Dec 7, 2004 15:05:14 GMT -5
It's possible there are reports on each person serving in the fleet and well with the cylons attacking the various colonies could have access to this or boomer leaked it...
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Post by Helo on Dec 7, 2004 5:34:09 GMT -5
********SPOILERS AHOY********
GALACTICA 1.8 Lands In Blighty!! And We Have The Reviews!!
Brits have “Galactica” blah blah, all the reviews have been great blah blah, Americans don’t get it till Jan. 14 blah blah.
Here’s “LoneGunMan” on 1.8:
Another review for Galactica, and what an episode. Excellent stuff again... we don't deserve such treats!!
Battlestar Galactica 1.8 FAQ
What’s it called? "Flesh and Bone"
How does it begin? The President is having a bizarre dream sequence that involves Leoben Conoy, the Cylon they discovered on the station in the mini-series. When she awakes, she is told that he has been discovered on board one of the ships, the Geminon Traveller. He's captured, and the President demands that someone questions him, someone who won't be easily confused. Enter Starbuck, into the interrogation chamber to find the location of the nuke he claims he's planted in the fleet. </font>
Torture and Interrogation this time? You could say that. Every series has it, Babylon 5 even did it, their attempt on psychological wordplay in a way similar to The Prisoner. However, this is done far better than B5 ever did. Starbuck puts her gameface on, knowing that the only way to make it crack is to torture the Cylon into doubting its faith, and Leoben seems to know the future of Starbuck, and the rest of the fleet.
So what else is going on then? Boomer has plenty of airtime this episode, in two capacities. Boomer v1 on Galactica is doubting her humanity. She is drawn to the Raider (much to Tyrol's bemusement), and is so confused that she heads to see Baltar and his Cylon detector. He runs a test on her, proving that she's a Cylon, but Baltar wisely lies and tells her she's human. How this will develop next week, I can't wait to find out... Meanwhile, just as Boomer v1 is doubting her humanity, Boomer v2 on Caprica with Helo is beginning to feel more human, going against her orders.
What happens? Lots of psychological warfare. It's just damn good. Nothing else I can say without blowing the punchline.
What's Good? The questioning is harsh, violent and nasty, and Galactica proves it's not one to pull its punches. Now that Baltar knows that Boomer's a Cylon, it opens up a whole new level, and it seems that the Cylons on Caprica wanted Helo and Boomer to settle down and possibly mate? Interesting to see where they were going to take that...
What's Bad? Not much really. Would have liked more philosophical debate... other than that, damn cool again.
How does it end? There was no bomb, Leoben was the weapon spreading lies and conjecture. The President spaces him, but not before he's told Starbuck that they will find Kobol, and it will lead them to Earth... and tells the President that Adama is a Cylon. Okay, so we know he's telling lies to get them confused and to start fighting amongst themselves, but we know they'll find Kobol this season... so just what is truth? Who can you trust?
“LoneGunMan¹s” rating for “Battlestar Galactica” 1.8? ****1/2
The Hercules T. Strong Rating System: ***** better than we deserve **** better than most motion pictures *** actually worth your valuable time ** as horrible as most stuff on TV * makes you quietly pray for bulletins
Battlestar Galactica 1.8 FAQ
What's it called?
'Flesh and Bone'.
After the mediocre 1993 thriller starring Meg Ryan?
I'm relieved to say there are no obvious parallels.
What do those scurvy dogs at Sky One says happens this episode?
The crew hear that a nuclear warhead is poised to strike, although it takes some convincing them that the rumour is true
Is it accurate?
It somehow fails to capture the substance of the episode.
How would you sum it up then?
Starbuck interrogates a Cylon who claims to have planted said nuclear warhead somewhere on the fleet.
Another 9/11 parallel, huh?
yes. and apparently this is the Abu Ghraib episode.
Does the Cylon's interrogation reveal any interesting facts?
Sure. Apparently that BSG olde-timey religion is the Greek pantheon (Atermis and Athena, etc), whereas the Cylons are monotheists. Also, Cylons have a serious god complex.
Anything else happening?
BSG Boomer is back stroking the Cylon Raider.
Lucky Raider!
Indeed. Later on, a worried little Boomer pays a visit to Gaius to get herself tested for Cylon blood.
What about Caprica Boomer?
Apparently conflicted after the night of passion with her fellow crewmate down on Caprica.
What's good?
The interplay between Starbuck and the Cylon. The glimpses we get into the loony Cylon religion. The bits with Boomer. Gaius's handling of the test results ("It's very bright green!"). The President's resolution to the Cylon problem.
What's not so good?
The silly conclusion to Starbuck's story thread (why assign a pilot to interrogate a prisoner in the first place? do they even teach prisoner interrogation in flight school?). The episode works hard to balance our sympathies between the BSG and the poor tortured Cylon but you know what? Cylons planting nuclear bombs - not that sympathetic. The whole human/dehumanization thing should be interesting but here it just feels contrived.
How does it end?
Starbuck offers a prayer for the Cylon. The President and Adama have a wee sit-down.
“Wolf at the Door's” rating for “Battlestar Galactica” 1.8?
*** The Hercules T. Strong Rating System: ***** better than we deserve **** better than most motion pictures *** actually worth your valuable time ** as horrible as most stuff on TV * makes you quietly pray for bulletins
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Post by Helo on Dec 7, 2004 2:34:07 GMT -5
He has gone through alot with her and so far she really hasn't steered him wrong maybe he sees some good in her suggestions and goes with them for that reason.
It is very possible that she loves helo and was trying to keep him from the cylons, but remember they said were setting up a cabin for you 2 with all the comforts she has to get him there telling him cylons are coming and she taking the lead and then finding this place could only serve to strengthen his feelings for her. But I do agree something weird is going on with Boomer when asked if helo loved she said she "thinks" so which wasnt good enough for 6 - It seems for me at least "Cap-Boomer" and "Gal-Boomer" seem to be slowly trading places. I love it more BSG!!! ;D
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Post by Helo on Dec 6, 2004 15:42:37 GMT -5
Very Cool ep well written and well acted by all Involved I especially liked the acting of the cylon guy and pres. roslin in this one shame we didnt see to much of helo or bamber though. The chief really should be piecing it together now lol... Also I enjoyed the baltar scence once again especially his reactions. Oh and one last thing on the ship where they were holding the cylon were the guards using FN-P90's if so little outdated arn't they??
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Post by Helo on Dec 6, 2004 15:37:10 GMT -5
Yay postiness - shiny ;D
Any chance we can merge the 2 threads??
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Post by Helo on Dec 3, 2004 18:04:42 GMT -5
yes and do not look at the last ep im having nightmares allready
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Post by Helo on Nov 30, 2004 2:39:16 GMT -5
I think it was more the fact that someone as dam nice as 6 was coming onto an old ugly git like adama ;D
Seruiously I don't know It may have been the things she said/what she did or the fact that he trusted baltar more, remember it would have been quite conveniant for the other doc to give "Shelly GODfrey" that disk right before he died.
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Post by Helo on Nov 29, 2004 15:59:01 GMT -5
Her programming was certainly beggining to come through when she was around the downed raider she didnt care that the chief was there.
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