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Post by Mustex on Jan 16, 2005 9:56:41 GMT -5
O.k., the TOS community has their political agenda (revival) that helps to hold them together, I think we need one or more of our own. Here are some suggestions:
1. Either convince CFF to buy commercial time in an episode of TNS (the Farscape people could do it), possibly with "Second Coming" footage, or create a parrallel orgainization for the purpose of putting up such a revival ad.
2. Prove that Tricia Helfer is the hottest woman in science fiction or fantasy. To do so, find out how much she charges for photo shoots, hire her, and have her pose in costumes worn by her rivals (Princess Leia's harem outfit, Cassie's socialator outfit, etc.).
2a. Have James Callis pose with her (he can stand-in for Jabba).
3. Establish once and for all, even with the detractors, that our show is NOT AS BAD AS G80!
4. Get a revival of TOS going (goes along with #1), to prove that they CAN coexist.
5. Make sure the Chief comes back.
6. Get the Chief a chance to write his own episode.
7. Hold our own convention by season 5.
8. Get Richard Hatch novels.
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Post by Xenu on Jan 16, 2005 10:04:58 GMT -5
Some good thoughts, and you're heart is in the right place, as always. A few things: You'd have an easier time convincing Jerry Fallwell to advertise Marilyn Manson records on his show For this to ever be true, Lynda Carter would have to somehow be wiped from existence...and I can't have that. I just blew my nose. it was better than Galactica 1980The Chief is a cool guy & might be a fantasticly talented screenwriter, but he's gonna have to use better grammar than he does around here. (I kid, Aaron) I think this is imminently possible
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Post by mjm800 on Jan 16, 2005 15:28:15 GMT -5
It is my opinion that the hardcore TOS community is rather small and of no significance to the well-being of TNS. Once the numbers come in that will be apparent. The only place their presence is felt is on message boards and believe me folks as far as the average viewer is concerned those of us who sit around and debate this stuff are geeks. Most people watch the show and then get on with their lives and tune in again next week without much fanfare.
We do not need an agenda because the show speaks for itself and the ratings will as well. I believe that most TOS fans are like me they had no idea that there was even a continuation effort or Second Coming or whatever it is called. I only learned of it when TNS mini was announced and I sought out some information about it. I welcomed TNS even with its changes although I was skeptical; however, when the mini aired I was immediately won over. I accept TNS for what it is and I rarely compare it to TOS. I believe this is how most fair-minded TOS fans feel.
In every paradigm there are those who make up a fridge hardcore faction, they are resistant to change and if there is to be change, it must fit their model. I love Logan’s Run and there is a proposed re-make in the works, they are suggesting many changes to the original and some of them have me nervous, such as changing the lifecycle from 30 years to 18 (that way we can lots of young hotties). I am not sure about this; however, I will give it a chance and I will not form a coalition to rail against it, but I am sure someone will. In the end, it will be made and it will garner new fans too young to remember the original and life will go on. A new generation of BSG fans who know little of the original or find it too campy and far removed to relate to it is being forged and no amount of bashing by a group of fans in their mid-thirties-to-late forties will affect the viewing habits a younger sci-fi starved generation.
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Post by Mustex on Jan 16, 2005 18:33:58 GMT -5
Some good thoughts, and you're heart is in the right place, as always. A few things: You'd have an easier time convincing Jerry Fallwell to advertise Marilyn Manson records on his show So we go for option B, and form our own revival group. The "Battlestar Duality," or something like that. Awww, and since you're the admin, I can't burn you at the stake. Yes, but some have actually proposed otherwise (no, Lang is not the only one). Any suggestions for the name? And we have to have triad. I don't care if it isn't in the new one.
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Post by Mustex on Jan 16, 2005 18:34:41 GMT -5
It is my opinion that the hardcore TOS community is rather small and of no significance to the well-being of TNS. Once the numbers come in that will be apparent. The only place their presence is felt is on message boards and believe me folks as far as the average viewer is concerned those of us who sit around and debate this stuff are geeks. Most people watch the show and then get on with their lives and tune in again next week without much fanfare. We do not need an agenda because the show speaks for itself and the ratings will as well. I believe that most TOS fans are like me they had no idea that there was even a continuation effort or Second Coming or whatever it is called. I only learned of it when TNS mini was announced and I sought out some information about it. I welcomed TNS even with its changes although I was skeptical; however, when the mini aired I was immediately won over. I accept TNS for what it is and I rarely compare it to TOS. I believe this is how most fair-minded TOS fans feel. In every paradigm there are those who make up a fridge hardcore faction, they are resistant to change and if there is to be change, it must fit their model. I love Logan’s Run and there is a proposed re-make in the works, they are suggesting many changes to the original and some of them have me nervous, such as changing the lifecycle from 30 years to 18 (that way we can lots of young hotties). I am not sure about this; however, I will give it a chance and I will not form a coalition to rail against it, but I am sure someone will. In the end, it will be made and it will garner new fans too young to remember the original and life will go on. A new generation of BSG fans who know little of the original or find it too campy and far removed to relate to it is being forged and no amount of bashing by a group of fans in their mid-thirties-to-late forties will affect the viewing habits a younger sci-fi starved generation. Let me put this more bluntly: I want something TNS related to donate money to.
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Post by koffee on Jan 17, 2005 4:17:07 GMT -5
2. Prove that Tricia Helfer is the hottest woman in science fiction or fantasy. How could we do that when Cate Blanchett is?
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Post by Mustex on Jan 17, 2005 8:06:02 GMT -5
How could we do that when Cate Blanchett is? O.k., you I can burn.
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Post by Darth Marley on Jan 17, 2005 8:24:35 GMT -5
Mustex- You can donate to the Darth Marley's BSG chronic fund. We provide relief to chronic pain sufferers by giving them chronic while they watch BSG.
mjm800, the Logan's Run changes seem geared to bring the story closer to the book. You should read the book series, I think you will feel comforted about the changes, and wish they had been more faithful the first time around.
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Post by waerth on Jan 17, 2005 9:23:27 GMT -5
Ahum the "Help Waerth spread the BSG-TNS gospel in Thailand fund" koff koff
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Post by Soulmage on Jan 17, 2005 9:31:12 GMT -5
Let me put this more bluntly: I want something TNS related to donate money to. I'm already doing this and you can too. If you want to "put your money where your mouth is" to support the new show as I do, here are a couple things to do: 1. Any time you have to buy a gift some someone - birthday, father's day, christmas, etc. if they're any chance they might concievably be interested in the new series, buy them a copy of the mini-series on DVD for them to "check out." I've bought 2 copies this way in addition to my own already. 2. Anytime you're in a store that sells DVDs, stop by and make sure that the new series DVD is facing out. DVD's (and books) with their cover showing sell better than those lined up bookcase style. Feel free to rearrange the shelf slightly to make space for the DVD to face out if needed. If they get strong sales of DVDs the network will see that there is a good "back end" end on the show. That will make them support the show more as they anticipate the DVD revenue they'll be able to make on each season. This approach works, especially if a bunch of people start doing it.
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Post by mjm800 on Jan 17, 2005 12:50:48 GMT -5
mjm800, the Logan's Run changes seem geared to bring the story closer to the book. You should read the book series, I think you will feel comforted about the changes, and wish they had been more faithful the first time around. Thank you I will...
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Post by ladyrheena on Jan 22, 2005 7:18:26 GMT -5
Again with the pyromania... *shakes head sadly* Besides, Amanda Tapping is the hottest woman in sci-fi or fantasy. ;D
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Post by Big Brother on Jan 23, 2005 5:14:30 GMT -5
Again with the pyromania... *shakes head sadly* Besides, Amanda Tapping is the hottest woman in sci-fi or fantasy. ;D Not while both Lexa Doig and Laura Bertram are still alive and kicking. But I will grant that Amanda Tapping is indeed cuter than any of the characters on BSG:TNS. (Tricia Helfer is a babe...but her Six character does nothing for me).
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Post by Blade Runner on Jan 23, 2005 5:20:53 GMT -5
Amanda Tapping is ok I suppose but the character of Carter winds me up with all the garble she comes out with
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Post by ladyrheena on Jan 24, 2005 6:20:03 GMT -5
Amanda Tapping is ok I suppose but the character of Carter winds me up with all the garble she comes out with Just hit the mute button on your remote and enjoy the eye candy instead, Blade Runner.
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