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Post by CylonGod on Mar 16, 2005 13:52:39 GMT -5
"Scott Peterson was sentenced to death Wednesday for murdering his pregnant wife, Laci, more than two years ago." By BRIAN SKOLOFF, Associated Press Writer So do you agree with this death penalty sentence? Do you think he really did it? Is he a murdering  ? Is wrongly convicted? I think he did it 100% I also think he should be put to death for it.  |
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Post by CylonGodess on Mar 16, 2005 15:42:31 GMT -5
I so agree w/ death penalty!!! ;D
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Post by CylonGod on Mar 17, 2005 8:37:54 GMT -5
 No one has any comments at all on this? 
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Post by ladyrheena on Mar 17, 2005 8:56:19 GMT -5
All right, all right...I think death is normally too good for the people who are sentenced to it (an easy way out) but at the same time why should the state waste all those resources keeping the unmentionables imprisoned for umpteen years or whatever?
Your turn...
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Post by Harvester on Mar 17, 2005 9:46:07 GMT -5
Let me preface this by saying I did not follow the trial very closely at all. My understanding of this case is that the conviction was basically based on a ton of circumstantial evidence and very little physical evidence. From what I've heard it does sound like a fairly strong case, and obviously the prosecution was able to obtain a capital conviction.
I don't have a problem with some muderers being put to death, but I prefer there be a lot of irrefutable evidence before it is implemented. For example, we have a case in Canada where Paul Bernardo and his wife Karla Homolka kidnapped, sexually abused over a period of days, and then murdered 2 teenage girls. Karla being the peach she is also drugged, raped (along with Paul), and killed her own sister. There was another rape as well of another girl. Add to that the fact that Paul Bernardo was a serial rapist (Scarborough Rapist) before he hooked up with Karla. Video tapes were found eventually (Canadians will know what I mean here) that showed Paul and Karla committing these acts. The evidence was totally irrefutable. I would have no problem personally pulling the trigger on these scumbags. We have no death penalty. He got "life" which even with his 'dangerous offender' tag might not keep him in jail for life. She got 12 years as a sweetheart deal, that kept expanding to cover new things. She gets released this year on the birthday of one of her victims.
So what I'm saying is that I'm not against the death penalty, but I think the burden of proof should be 'beyond ANY doubt', which to me is different than 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. Can you get to 'beyond ANY doubt' on cicumstantial evidence alone? I don't think so.
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Post by cranky1c on Mar 17, 2005 10:01:35 GMT -5
For one thing, because he lives in California, Peterson's lifespan is likely to run out before his appeals do, which is to say his death sentence is for practical purposes a sentence to life on death row.
I actually don't think that's a bad thing, even though I think he's guilty.
My issue with the death penalty is that it deprives the convict of the suffering which their victims and the victim's survivors endure. People get sentenced to death when they have done things with particular cruelty and malice, yet in response we will execute them by the most humane means at our disposal. Even if SP needs a dozen needle sticks before they can do a lethal injection, that's still less that what he did to his wife and son.
Also, if the members of Laci Peterson's family need to wake up every morning for the rest of their lives with the knowledge of what happened, so should SP. He should grow old, and weak and frail in a cage, having to suffer the consequences of his actions without hope, even as Laci's family has the opportunity to try to move on with their lives.
Hell can wait.
State sponsored execution is designed to be humane.
Life is hard, and life behind bars is harder.
And this dude deserves to have it as hard as it gets.
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Post by ladyrheena on Mar 17, 2005 10:44:15 GMT -5
See? Provoked debate is int'resting.  This is, I think, another of those things like euthanasia and abortion to which there are no right and wrong answers. The entire thing is a big mucky grey area. So let debate continue and we'll all give our neurones a good workout... |
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Post by caseOrange on Mar 18, 2005 2:53:49 GMT -5
All right, all right...I think death is normally too good for the people who are sentenced to it (an easy way out) but at the same time why should the state waste all those resources keeping the unmentionables imprisoned for umpteen years or whatever? i 100% agree. It's a catch-22. For one thing, because he lives in California, Peterson's lifespan is likely to run out before his appeals do, which is to say his death sentence is for practical purposes a sentence to life on death row. This is also true, and maybe was given to him as a humane treatment, yet still harsh punishment. If he would've been given a life sentence, other prisoners would have killed him within a month. It's strange but it seems in American prisons even hardened criminals don't take kindly to those who harm women and children. Take the case of the priest (i forgot his name) who was convicted of raping who knows how many altar boys, and a week after he was in prison, he was dead. As far as Peterson goes, fry him soon. Let all the family members surrounding the case get to see it before one or all of them pass away with him still on Death Row. Personally, i've always thought that in cases of violent and attrocious crimes, locking the perpertrator naked in a room with the victims loved ones and letting them do their worst to him/her would be most appropriate. If the perp ends up dead, so be it. But i'm just silly that way.  |
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Post by ladyrheena on Mar 18, 2005 8:00:29 GMT -5
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." - Mahatma Ghandi. Just stirring it up a bit more, y'know.  |
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Post by CylonGod on Mar 18, 2005 13:32:38 GMT -5
Just stirring it up a bit more, y'know. Thought that was my job? Oh well all the more the merrier. Lets stir the pot some more! |
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Post by caseOrange on Mar 18, 2005 23:39:13 GMT -5
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." - Mahatma Ghandi. "But in the land of the blind, a one-eyed man is king" - somebody i don't know. Don't know what that has to do with this discussion, but i've always liked that quote. |
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Post by Silentwolfdog on Mar 20, 2005 0:28:20 GMT -5
I don't believe in death penalty.
I believe that every soul deserve second chance...I know I am probably alone in this. I think soul is most precious thing in the universe and worth saving even if person did murder one hundred of people or torture person badly. They still deserved redeem, and I don't think humans can act like god, decide who live who die.
That's why I believe in life sentence instead of death penalty. So that person have it's whole life to think about what that person has done and find/ask forgiveness in itself and to higher power.
Also, if person murder someone and I gave that person death sentence, I would just feel guilty and become like a murderer ya know? In my opinion, person killed someone and I have that person killed doesn't really solve anything and I won't feel better afterware...
I dont follow Scott's trial too much but if he is actually guilt I think he should have life sentence instead of death penalty.
And think about it...if he was given death penalty and died. Then later we found he was actually innocent by DNA or whatever it is, then won't we feel guilty? I don't want that type of risk...
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Post by Kass on Mar 23, 2005 6:46:20 GMT -5
Thought that was my job? Oh well all the more the merrier. Lets stir the pot some more! Stir some more? I can do that. I've no problem with the death penalty as long as the evidence is convincing beyond a doubt. That doesn't mean it requires pictures of them caught in the act, but even enough circumstantial evidence can add and add and add until there is no doubt. The other thing I require is that all legal appeals are held. Executing someone, even someone so heinous as Scott Peterson, should never be taken lightly. That being said, I don't think people like Peterson, Susan Smith (the Arkansas woman who strapped her two baby boys into car seats and pushed the car into the lake, drowning them), or Darlie Routier (the Texas woman who stabbed to death two of her sons) should die so quickly and I'm pretty sure Amnesty International would take issue with what I think people who kill their own children deserve. I say lock them in a cell and never let them out. Slide food under the door. Give them NOTHING they could possibly injure themselves with. The only other human voices they hear should either be guards or the voices of their victims. Play loops of their voices off videos, tapes, whatever at random intervals of the day. Display pictures of their children/wives on a monitor. Graphically age them so that they'd know what their child would look like if they had been allowed to have a future. Make big deals of their birthdays, holidays and other important events. "You're child would have been one year old today." "Connor would be saying 'Daddy' by now." "Your sons would be going to prom tonight." "Your child would be graduating high school today." People who kill their own children are no better than the slugs I salt in my garden. Infanticide is just beyond anything I could ever imagine or condone. I knew from the second I found out I was pregnant that I loved my child and would do anything to protect her. Harming her in the slightest has never even crossed my mind. Never. |
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Post by Callipygian on Mar 23, 2005 9:03:53 GMT -5
People who kill their own children are no better than the slugs I salt in my garden. Infanticide is just beyond anything I could ever imagine or condone. I knew from the second I found out I was pregnant that I loved my child and would do anything to protect her. Harming her in the slightest has never even crossed my mind. Never. Even before I got to this last paragraph, I absolutely knew you were a Mom (with an intentional capital "M"). I like your style of justice. Although violence in movies/TV doesn't bother me, I abhor real life violence. But if someone ever threatened my son, I would frakkin' chew off his/her arm and beat them to a bloody pulp with it. I will never understand how any parent could hurt their own child. Calli |
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