Jackezifez
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Post by Jackezifez on Mar 8, 2005 17:04:16 GMT -5
I am unsure at the moment. The staged versions of the trial are very informative though, it's a real thinker...
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Post by Blade Runner on Mar 8, 2005 17:08:15 GMT -5
he's being judged by the media, which is totally unfair cos the media dont live his life
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Jackezifez
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Post by Jackezifez on Mar 8, 2005 17:20:43 GMT -5
good call
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Post by Crashdown on Mar 8, 2005 18:42:09 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, is the vote on what we think is the truth, or what we think the verdict will be?
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Post by caseOrange on Mar 8, 2005 21:13:57 GMT -5
he's being judged by the media, which is totally unfair cos the media dont live his life Live by the media, die by the media. If this was the 1980s, the case would be dismissed and the accusers publicly humiliated. MJ doesn't have that much clout anymore. |
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Post by Xenu on Mar 9, 2005 1:03:09 GMT -5
So far (just like in the Peterson case), my gut tells me he's guilty...if not of this particular crime, then of others...but I have yet to hear any evidence that I could convict him on were I on that jury.....so right now, I'm undecided.  |
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Post by Helo on Mar 9, 2005 4:10:19 GMT -5
Personaly I'm thinking guilty but even If he isnt I still don't think he should be looking after his kids - "The lights are on but nobodys home"
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Post by CylonGod on Mar 9, 2005 4:18:37 GMT -5
I'm thinking he's guilty of this and or other crimes. He has bought off people in the past for the same acusations and yet here he is again with little boys!  At least learn from your mistakes.  |
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Jackezifez
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Post by Jackezifez on Mar 9, 2005 11:31:09 GMT -5
He does have a very good defense though.
The case against him is full of holes.
I'd like to think innocent.
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Post by Ziptie on Mar 9, 2005 11:58:09 GMT -5
Guilty m'Lud. Jackson is a loon, and seems to have lost all connection with the real-world, and its ideas of right and wrong.
Whatever the specific merits of the current case, it's pretty clear from the evidence that the Jordan Chandler incident would have been an open and shut case if it had actually got as far as court.
This alone inclines me to believe that the current accusations are grounded in fact.
Whether or not the Arviso family are a bunch of amoral, money-grabbing opportunists is a slightly separate issue.
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Post by caseOrange on Mar 10, 2005 0:16:36 GMT -5
I'm thinking he's guilty of this and or other crimes. He has bought off people in the past for the same acusations and yet here he is again with little boys! At least learn from your mistakes. He needs someone in his entourage to sit him down and say, "Look, Mike...you've got this lifestyle that people find troubling, to say the least. You're pretty weird on top of that. If you want to keep living your life the way you want to, try not to do stupid things in public--you're making it harder for your attorneys". But i guess that person would be immediately fired, of course. i can't convict MJ for being weird--i've known a lot of weird people (not quite as weird as him, though), and i'd be a fascist hypocrite to judge him guilty just for being a freak. But too much info has surfaced that can't all be rumor. All i'm saying is this: after Nicole Simpson was killed and suspicion was cast on O.J., he fled from the police in a bloody Bronco with a passport to Mexico, a mask, a gun, and threatening to kill himself during the police chase. But the jury still found him not guilty. That, IMHO, is what i think will happen again. Facts don't always sway the jury when high-priced attorneys and famous defendants are involved. |
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Post by Ziptie on Mar 10, 2005 9:31:32 GMT -5
He needs someone in his entourage to sit him down and say, "Look, Mike...". But i guess that person would be immediately fired, of course. I believe psychiatrists call this condition "Lucasian Syndrome". Feelings of narcissism and excessive vanity result in a complete failure of the brain's natural self-critical systems. The condition is complicated by the failure of the sufferer's family and friends to impart any creative or moral standards. Indeed not. Indeed. Quite. It'll be interesting to see what happens. It'll be interesting to see what happens if any of Chandler's family are called as prosecution witnesses, as has been suggested in some quarters. If so, it would seem to be difficult for the jury to avoid the increasingly acrid smell of smoke in the air. |
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Post by CylonGodess on Mar 12, 2005 21:28:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I'm 100% think he's guilty since the accuser family has bad record on claiming false allegation, I heard they try to get money from JC Penney. So.... it might be deal gone bad. Sigh... I used to like him a lot!
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Post by Ziptie on Mar 13, 2005 6:59:32 GMT -5
Oh, it's quite possible that the family are a bunch of money-grabbing opportunists. However, that, in itself, does not automatically prove Jackson's innocence.
It may well be that the Arvisos went into this association with Jackson with a view to placing him in a compromising position and extorting money from him. It is also eminently possible that they settled on this course of action after the fact.
In either scenario, however, Jackson may still have abused the kid. If the Arvisos prove to be inconsistent witnesses, that just makes the judge and jury's job harder.
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Post by CylonGodess on Mar 13, 2005 8:55:18 GMT -5
Oh, it's quite possible that the family are a bunch of money-grabbing opportunists. However, that, in itself, does not automatically prove Jackson's innocence. It may well be that the Arvisos went into this association with Jackson with a view to placing him in a compromising position and extorting money from him. It is also eminently possible that they settled on this course of action after the fact. In either scenario, however, Jackson may still have abused the kid. If the Arvisos prove to be inconsistent witnesses, that just makes the judge and jury's job harder. I agree... that's why I said I'm not 100% think he's guilty. Just because both of them has bad track record. But so far I think the favor is on MJ cause his lawyer manage to make the witness look bad n not exactly type of creditabl one. We shall see what's next and the verdict is!Goozzz now this thing become my 2nd thing I'm patiently waiting beside the battle star!!! ;D |
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