CrimsonCrystal
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Battlestar Orion rejoices as it rescues Lt. Sharon Valeri.
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Post by CrimsonCrystal on Mar 4, 2005 13:59:58 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Adama saw action in the first war and after the war. If not, the entire "Lee lives in the shadow of his father" theme unravels. Not sure how he could be a highly respected war hero if he wasn't in the war.
It is possible for Adama to be in for 40 years, even though he might have hit a barrer in the last 10 years. Even if someone hasn't been promoted for a long time, as long as that high ranking officer gets new assignments every five years, they can stay, until they hit the mandatory retirement age or they have some physical issue that disqualifies them for command of a combat unit.
Maybe Adama was offered an Admiral's Star, with his first assignment being Battlestar Network Automation? That's pure speculation, but it would not be outside the range of human behavior. Its not hard to guess Adama's reaction. So he retires.
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kingfish
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Colonial Waffler
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Post by kingfish on Mar 4, 2005 15:29:37 GMT -5
We do know that Adama was assigned to the Atlantia. He made his 1000th landing there as mentioned in Acts of Contrition. Why were they retiring his ship? Age? After the battle in the mini there were many destroyed Battlestars that looked like the Galactica design- wise. I wonder what The Pegasus will look like. Cain's ship was supposed to be older than the Galactica in the novelization of LL. I wonder if they will use the ship from os if a LL episode is ordered.
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Post by nlinecomputers on Mar 4, 2005 16:47:00 GMT -5
Why is everybody so hot for having the pegasus show up? Like most of the old series it was just a dumb set of episodes.
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Post by prism700 on Mar 4, 2005 17:18:01 GMT -5
Why is everybody so hot for having the pegasus show up? Like most of the old series it was just a dumb set of episodes. Not all of us want the Peagus to show up - i certainly don't but there is still a lot of speculation.  |
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kingfish
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Post by kingfish on Mar 4, 2005 17:18:16 GMT -5
Why is everybody so hot for having the pegasus show up? Like most of the old series it was just a dumb set of episodes. Ho hum.  LL was the greatest episode of tos. It had the highest ratings. |
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Post by nlinecomputers on Mar 4, 2005 17:45:24 GMT -5
Which says volumes about TOS to begin with. The greatest episode is the one the featured some other ship and crew.
The only reason I can see Pegasus showing up is as method to resupply the fleet. As everything that happens to the fleet is because of Cylon action this would be to. IMO the fleet is being carefully herded towards...something.
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kingfish
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Post by kingfish on Mar 4, 2005 20:12:23 GMT -5
Which says volumes about TOS to begin with. The greatest episode is the one the featured some other ship and crew. The only reason I can see Pegasus showing up is as method to resupply the fleet. As everything that happens to the fleet is because of Cylon action this would be to. IMO the fleet is being carefully herded towards...something. Larson even copywrited the Pegasus universe. Larson also managed to get seperation rights. I hope Koenig Rules reads this thread because he seems to know plenty about the new series. KR, I noticed that Glen is credited as consulting producer. Is he involved with the new show? |
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Tato
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Post by Tato on Mar 5, 2005 21:02:35 GMT -5
They've only just shown the episode "Water" in New Zealand so I may have missed it...is it indicated anywhere what the life span of a Colonial in BSG is? A lot of the discussion has centred around Adama looking 50's or 60's and retirement age being around 62, or whatever.
If the average Colonial lives to 100-120 years of age it may put a different perspective on who did what, and when.
Anybody notice they try and set Adama up as a scholar as well as a military man? His quarters have enough books to fill a university library.
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 5, 2005 22:40:40 GMT -5
I think it's probable that Adama was choosing to retire. If he was passed over for promotion to Admiral, and his command was being decomissioned out from under him, odds are he either would have to have taken a desk job or go civilian and take up golf. I can't see Adama pushing paper.
There's also the possibility that he was being given no choice, even if his age was not an issue. If I'm understanding the military correctly, you only have a limited number of chances at promotion. If you don't move up the ladder, you get moved off. Adama obviously had a stern resistance toward accepting new technologies within the fleet, which may have dropped him out of favor with his superiors, even they held him in deep respect for his past heroism. By decomissioning Galactica, the fleet was decommisioning Adama along with it. Perhaps that's why they gave him that command -- a specfic limited duration until both old relics would be put out to pasture.
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kingfish
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Post by kingfish on Mar 6, 2005 10:34:28 GMT -5
In os, the Colonial lifespan was 250 yahrens notwithstanding Cylons.
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Post by JasonN2003 on Mar 7, 2005 1:19:44 GMT -5
In os, the Colonial lifespan was 250 yahrens notwithstanding Cylons. I Honestly cant see Humans in TNS living to 250 years old, if this was true that would make Adama what, 200 years? Lee 150? |
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Kass
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Post by Kass on Mar 7, 2005 17:23:39 GMT -5
nlinecomputers wrote: 2. Under fire, he knew where the arms depot was located, had confidence in his navigator to plot a jump and guide the ship down the mouth of the gas giant To be fair, Tigh found Ragnar Anchorage. Adama ordered him to "find me something to shoot." Tigh, being the almost sober XO, researched and found the closest arms depot that was known to have ammunition and passed it on to Adama, who repiled, "It's a bitch to anchor a ship there." (one of my favorite lines. The irony with the name of the station was great.) Near as I can tell from reading RDM's blog, the Colonials use a wierd hybrid of Naval and Marine ranks, so here are different steps between being a lieutenant and a Commander. In the Navy, it takes a long time to get that rank. In real life navies, there is no colonel rank. From what I've found on Adama, said to be in his early 20s during the first war, he was with many officers who were released from service and spent a few years out of military duty, including Adama and Tigh. Some years later, he was able to rejoin. If we go then by Lee Adama's rank of captain (which would normally put him commanding a vessel in the real navy and he would be much older) and go by a typical land ranks progression, he would be in his early- to mid-30s, meaning whould have to have been born about 5-7 years after the first Cylon war. Retirement in the military is offered at 20 years of service, not at a certain age, but you can stay longer. If we base his age at 21 during the first war and it is 40 years later, he'd be in his early 60s. Probably his reluctance to modernize put him out of favor with the military command, which impeded his promotions. As far as his scholarly image, a lot of older military officers are very highly educated, plus Adama's father was a civil rights lawyer. It is very likely that his father instilled in him a high regard for scholarly endeavors. As for retirement, maybe he wanted to retire. Some people want to do that, ya' know. |
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Post by MrNiceGaius on Mar 10, 2005 13:28:48 GMT -5
quite simple in one word: Anachronism. That's Adama, an old school soldier, in the new modern world.... just happens that the current enemy, is the one that he is perfectly trained to fight
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Post by murdog on Mar 15, 2005 21:30:44 GMT -5
Well this is my first post on this board, and I've been to several and think this one is the best. As for Adama, call it luck, skill or whatever, but he is the only one (to date) that survived which in my book means he's pretty good. I'd rather be with the worst and still alive than the best and dead. I know luck and circumstance played a lot in the fact that his ship was not affected by the cylons "virus" which is because he did not allow upgrades and the cylon "virus" didn't work, thus because of Adama's refusal for software upgrades ect...the cylons plan didnt affect the Galactica. He made this clear in the Mini and his "forsight" saved the ship. Either way those "other" commanders might have been laughing before, but whose laughing now? But thats just me....
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