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Zak
Nov 21, 2004 20:44:00 GMT -5
Post by Mustex on Nov 21, 2004 20:44:00 GMT -5
How much do we know about his fate? I have an idea for a fan fic, but it requires that his brain was in tact for at least a little while after the crash.
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Zak
Nov 21, 2004 20:47:53 GMT -5
Post by Blade Runner on Nov 21, 2004 20:47:53 GMT -5
All we know at the moment is that he didnt have the chops  |
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Zak
Nov 22, 2004 6:34:55 GMT -5
Post by Alan on Nov 22, 2004 6:34:55 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that his death was described as a "flight accident" at some point.
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Zak
Nov 22, 2004 6:49:12 GMT -5
Post by Mustex on Nov 22, 2004 6:49:12 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that his death was described as a "flight accident" at some point. Yes, but was it the kind of accident he might have survived (just impact), or not (KABOOM!)? |
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Zak
Nov 22, 2004 16:04:06 GMT -5
Post by Xenu on Nov 22, 2004 16:04:06 GMT -5
I had the impression that it was during a training, recon, or some other non-combat action; therefore there would have been several witnesses & I don't think there's much chance he's alive....
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Zak
Nov 22, 2004 20:04:08 GMT -5
Post by Mustex on Nov 22, 2004 20:04:08 GMT -5
I had the impression that it was during a training, recon, or some other non-combat action; therefore there would have been several witnesses & I don't think there's much chance he's alive.... Maybe "survived" wasn't the right word. I know he's dead. Well, let me give away some story details the way I was planning them: It just looked like an accident. The Cylons snuck some agents back into the colony, who shot him down. Then, before anyone else could reach him, they got to the Viper and scanned the memories from his dead brain into a computer. This could word if you accept Baltar isn't delusion (it proves they have computer-neural hook-ups), but it kind of falls apart if all that was left of his brain was jelly. |
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Conundrum
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Zak
Nov 22, 2004 20:30:55 GMT -5
Post by Conundrum on Nov 22, 2004 20:30:55 GMT -5
Didn't he die while effectively doing his solo ? I would assume also that he would have died during takeoff or landing. If he were in space I would assume that safety systems wouldn't allow him to do anything that would kill him....but takeoff and landing.
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Zak
Nov 22, 2004 20:37:27 GMT -5
Post by Mustex on Nov 22, 2004 20:37:27 GMT -5
Didn't he die while effectively doing his solo ? I would assume also that he would have died during takeoff or landing. If he were in space I would assume that safety systems wouldn't allow him to do anything that would kill him....but takeoff and landing. Good point. Of course during a space shuttle landing you can get pretty far off course if something goes wrong, as is evident from the Columbia mishap (of course if that happens it would probably be a "brain is toasted jelly" scenario). |
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Zak
Nov 23, 2004 3:42:33 GMT -5
Post by Alan on Nov 23, 2004 3:42:33 GMT -5
Maybe "survived" wasn't the right word. I know he's dead. Well, let me give away some story details the way I was planning them: It just looked like an accident. The Cylons snuck some agents back into the colony, who shot him down. Then, before anyone else could reach him, they got to the Viper and scanned the memories from his dead brain into a computer. Why does his brain have to be scanned after the flight accident? If the Cylons already had a reason to be interested in Zak Adama (which must be true, if they're bothering to shoot him down  ) then why not have them scan his brain before the accident? In fact, perhaps the "accident" was actually sabotage! That would be much safer for the Cylons (i.e. much harder to detect) than shooting him down. |
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Zak
Nov 23, 2004 6:47:19 GMT -5
Post by Mustex on Nov 23, 2004 6:47:19 GMT -5
Why does his brain have to be scanned after the flight accident? If the Cylons already had a reason to be interested in Zak Adama (which must be true, if they're bothering to shoot him down ) then why not have them scan his brain before the accident? In fact, perhaps the "accident" was actually sabotage! That would be much safer for the Cylons (i.e. much harder to detect) than shooting him down. Well, I guess sabotage would work better, but they didn't have any interest in Zak specifically. They just needed a Colonial in general. Plus, they needed to get him isolated where they could scan his brain. Plus, they didn't want it to seem strange that he was dead at the end, because he couldn't be allowed to tell anyone they were there. |
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Zak
Nov 24, 2004 2:55:16 GMT -5
Post by Alan on Nov 24, 2004 2:55:16 GMT -5
Well, I guess sabotage would work better, but they didn't have any interest in Zak specifically. They just needed a Colonial in general. Plus, they needed to get him isolated where they could scan his brain. Well, we already know that the Cylons prefer humans who are capable of feeling love. Perhaps the Cylons selected Zak Adama for their plan because he was in love with Starbuck! They grabbed him and brain-scanned him. Then they covered their tracks by tinkering with his brain to make him crash and stuffing him back into his Viper. This also allows you to do a creepy prologue to your fanfic. In the prologue, you show Starbuck and Zak together on the base, laughing and having a good time. Finally Zak tells her that he has to leave early, because is scheduled for a flight physical before he goes on duty later. Unknown to them, they are being observed by a mysterious blonde woman...  |
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Zak
Nov 24, 2004 16:21:10 GMT -5
Post by Mustex on Nov 24, 2004 16:21:10 GMT -5
Well, we already know that the Cylons prefer humans who are capable of feeling love. Perhaps the Cylons selected Zak Adama for their plan because he was in love with Starbuck! They grabbed him and brain-scanned him. Then they covered their tracks by tinkering with his brain to make him crash and stuffing him back into his Viper. This also allows you to do a creepy prologue to your fanfic. In the prologue, you show Starbuck and Zak together on the base, laughing and having a good time. Finally Zak tells her that he has to leave early, because is scheduled for a flight physical before he goes on duty later. Unknown to them, they are being observed by a mysterious blonde woman... Problem there. Certain story points require that this be before the Cylons can create convincing human look-a-likes. |
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Zak
Nov 24, 2004 17:38:46 GMT -5
Post by Alan on Nov 24, 2004 17:38:46 GMT -5
Problem there. Certain story points require that this be before the Cylons can create convincing human look-a-likes. Then your story may have a problem.  Remember that Number Six and Baltar were sleeping together for two years before the destruction of the colonies. Also Boomer is a rookie aboard Galactica, but since she's an officer we can assume she attended some kind of Fleet Academy prior to coming on board. Here on Earth, the military service academies are full universities. If the Colonial Fleet Academy is the same, then it's possible the bio-Cylons have been infiltrating for five or six years already. Do we know how long ago Zak Adama died? To judge from the appearance of the characters in the "Act of Contrition" flashback scenes, it couldn't be too long ago... |
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Zak
Nov 24, 2004 17:59:30 GMT -5
Post by Blade Runner on Nov 24, 2004 17:59:30 GMT -5
In the mini series, the first conversation Starbuck and Apollo had, mentioned it was the first tiime they'd seen each other in 2 years, the last time was at the funeral
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Zak
Nov 24, 2004 18:42:11 GMT -5
Post by Alan on Nov 24, 2004 18:42:11 GMT -5
In the mini series, the first conversation Starbuck and Apollo had, mentioned it was the first tiime they'd seen each other in 2 years, the last time was at the funeral Good catch, BladeRunner! So the bio-Cylons have definitely been infiltrating the Colonies since before Zak's death. |
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