The Baby...

[CaptainStigmata]

What are your speculations about Boomer and Helo's baby? Do you think she will be give birth to the baby or do you think will be killed? I wouldn't be surprised if Galacticica Boomer killed her.

[Darth Marley]

Thing is, if the Cylons wanted a hybrid baby, Six was boffing Baltar for two years.

They could have multiple Six models pregnant, or even a few Baltar/Six love children already born.

If the baby is the goal, then there damn well better be a good plot device to explain why they needed to nuke humanity to achieve it.

[prism700]

Darth said:

If the baby is the goal, then there damn well better be a good plot device to explain why they needed to nuke humanity to achieve it.

Agreed. For me, this is probably the most complex storyline of the series so far. Can't wait to see how they resolve it (i can see the writers scribbling furiously now ).

[Jenna]

some people on other boards think that the baby is baltars and starbucks which i pray it isnt but it would be so funny if it was can u imagine starbuck on maternity leave lol that would just crack me up
even though boomers the one who is preggers i wonder which one there gonna kill of if there gonna keep both of them alive

[Tato]

Baltar and Six...well, you won't get a half human baby out of that combo if Baltar turns out to be a Cylon!!!

I wonder if the new baby might finally bring "Balance to the Force"...or become a focus of a truce between Cylons and humans...

Nah, that seems way to optimistic.

[CylonGod]

Perhaps it gives the Cylons the reason to pull out all the stops to get the Humans if they manage to get boomer's baby back to the big G. The hunt would really begin then.

[XwingRob]

Oh yeah, if your right CylonGod, they would be royally boned.

[ladyrheena]

That'd raise one hell of a moral issue for the fleet if such a situation arose. If they know the reason for the sudden increase in the hounding/chasing/general risk level for the fleet is the baby, logic (cold and cool) dictates that you either dump the kid or kill it and dump it, but certainly get rid of it somehow. Brutal, but if it's fifty thousand odd people against one baby, even a half Cylon, half Human one...cue lots of angst, methinks!

[CylonGod]

It would raise all kinds of ethics over what to do with it. But would boomer be willing to help the fleet if they dumped her baby which she jumped sides for in the first place. The info she has would prove very valuable. She would be able to suse out all the Cylon spies as well as tactical info. This might be able to make up for thye increased pressure from the Cylons and level the playing field. (ie there postion wouldn't be handed to the Cylons every jump.) She might be able to exploite unknown Cylon weakness'.

[ladyrheena]

That's true, CylonGod, but how far would the fleet (especially the senior personell) be willing to trust pretty much anything she said? Especially considering the- ah- events at the end of season one on the Galactica!

[MHall]

I heard some people over on sciffy speculating that Galactica Sharon and Caprica Sharon have been slowly switching personalities. What if they were switched? Congratulations Tyrol, you are the father of a new baby, uh, Cylon!!! This almost has to be true, right?

* In episode 6 (Litmus), Six says, "Sharon would not give up without a much harder fight," but as I recall she's replying to Sharon there, so doesn't that sound a little third-person-inappropriately-impersonal?

* From at least episode 8 (Flesh and Bone), Caprica Sharon is sweet, while Galactica Sharon has grown some fangs. She said harshly to Baltar: "you owe me," and then of course there is what happened in episode 13.

* There is Boomer's friendly relationship with Boxey, and then the deleted scene picture of Boomer pointing a gun at Boxey, which also suggests a drastic change.

* In episode 8, Sharon sings a Korean lullaby to the Raider, seemingly out of character from the old Sharon we knew.

* Tyrol seems to sense the change. I think he implied she was acting strangely in his "it's over" speech, and then there's his "What happened to us?" speech by Sharon's hospital bed.

* It is a total Blade Runner style mind-frack on the viewer, and Moore likes Blade Runner guns and plots and mind-fracks.

* The writers get soap opera points this way, with a real Tyrol-Sharon-Helo love triangle (with just one Sharon, the good one) and setting up "who's the father?" intrigue.

* If the mini-series Sharon did get pregnant by Tyrol, wouldn't we expect the Cylons to quickly get her off Galactica to protect the "new generation"?

* I had already been wondering how they would speed up the pregnancy. Presto, Sharon is now ~4 months pregnant instead of less than 1!

Now, about the alleged baby in the crib that Six showed Baltar... that one could be a Six-n-Baltar baby. And I am not at all sure which will be the first baby born... Tyrol-n-Sharon or Six-n-Balter. I suppose Six's jealousy of Sharon strongly suggests the Tyrol-n-Sharon baby will be first, yes.

[CylonGod]

I can't see how they would be switched. The Sharon on Caprica was not on the Galactica yet. Helo was left behind by Galactica Boomer (the reason Blatar owes her). The Caprica Boomer was there from the get go so its impossable that Chief Tyrol could be the father. Boomer got pregnant on Caprica. She had sex and the next thing we know she is puking in the loft and then finally the big anouncement.

[MHall]

www.surebaby.com says, "Usually, [morning sickness] begins at four to eight weeks of gestation and subsides by 14 to 16 weeks." That fits my timeline better. Frack, where can I get a timeline for season 1? Boomer did the deed with Helo in, what, episode 8, and then had morning sickness in episode 10, and it's usually just a few days between episodes.

Because Galactica Sharon seems to display even more than two personalities, I've been wondering if Galactica Sharon has been switched multiple times, and here you are thinking it's impossible she ever could have been switched. Any time Sharon is in a Raptor by herself or with only other Cylon agents (Crashdown?), and has jumped out of sensor range, then she can dock with a Cylon ship and do the switch. Also, Shelly Godfrey was able to disappear.

Caprica Sharon is able to sneak off for a few minutes every episode to meet with Six and Doral. In as much time, she could jump to rendezvous with Galactica Sharon's raptor, when she's off on a scouting mission.

I will have to watch all the episodes again, but it looks to me like Galactica Boomer has been switched by the start of episode 2, Water. When she "wakes up" dripping wet and she doesn't know what the frack is going on, that seems symbolic of a birth to me. Also, if the Sharon on Caprica now is really a "good" Sharon, then she must have left before Galactica Sharon started planting bombs.

Another possible switch time is during the mini-series. All the passengers rescued by Sharon could be Cylons, except Baltar, who was either asleep or given a convincing illusion by internal Six, while Sharon and Boxey docked with a Cylon ship (perhaps unwillingly, though they are Cylons) and the switch was made. But, but, but, the lottery, you cry. I can see how this Cylon-operated lottery was likely rigged. Can you? At least one of the passengers may be a different aged version of a model we already know. See which one?

Final possibility... the switch could have happened before the mini, while Sharon was on shore-leave or whatever. Subsequent personality switches might have been a matter of "reprogramming."

[MHall]

And regarding Sharon switches, I didn't mention it, because it doesn't related to pregnant Sharon switching, but there is a very real possibility that the Sharon who came back in episode 13 was not the one who left on the mission! We didn't see exactly what happened, and neither did Racetrack, who could be a Cylon anyway.

[CylonGod]

I think the switch is a streach but possable. I don't think it is possable for the Caprica Boomer to switch. The Raptor has a short range ftl to jump ahead of Galactica and jump back and make a report as Boomer explained to Roslin. No Colonial ftl can make the jump back to Caprica. It requires the more advanced Cylon ftl (ie a Raider). As far as the Boomer on Galactica and the Basestar it's possable. The other Boomers where naked. Boomer whould have to strip and then have the other dress up. She saw those Boomers and split back to the Raptor in a very short time so I really don't think the switch happend then if at all. I guess we will have to wait and see.