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Post by sleeperawaken on Mar 7, 2005 8:09:28 GMT -5
On the topic of Matrix, I agree. That is why I specified the "first" matrix movie  I actually did like the twist they put in "reloaded", but they botched it in a big way with Revolutions. In Reloaded Neo says, "something's different", making you think that the "cycle" was being broken, but by the end of Revolutions, it was looking like the cycle might be pretty much, "the same", and you really don't know one way or another. If BSG does follow the theory I've developed, I think they will find a way to break the cycle as well. Also, I would add, that likely the "first humans" were actually humans, they would have to be. Otherwise, there would be no extended gene pool to draw from. Hence, while I say that maybe all the humans are cylons in this "cycle", they are also all part human, & pull from a human gene pool from the first cycle. Yes, and if the BSG writers do go this route, I would hope they would tie up all the loose ends, I would be disgusted with another Matrix Rev. ending. Anyway, it is just a fun theory in the end. Maybe BSG has something totally different in mind. It will be fun to see |
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Post by Zolutar on Mar 13, 2005 20:20:26 GMT -5
Reference: Scrolls, "all that has happened has happened before, & will happen again", Kobol, cylon/human baby. I have to agree with where you are going with the whole cycle of time. My take though is that when the human/cylons hybird find earth, then in turn Earth plays the part of the orignal kobol, repeating the orignal cycle to where we are now, except then , the galactica would be looking for the fabled kobol. thus our cycle of time. it is interesting the theories around the cylons looking to mate with humans to essentially replace them, though yes, they would be a hybrid, though replacing the pluralistic gods with one god. In turn, when humans from earth seed the twelve colonies, build robots whom inturn rebel and lead to where we are now, it would be the cylons who beleive in the pluralism to eventually overcome singularism. in any event. I eagerly look foreward to where Ron Moore is taking us on this jouney. |
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Post by siouxsmn on Mar 13, 2005 22:11:19 GMT -5
Well I'm glad to see I'm not only one.. I was getting worried there for a minute. Maybe I had too many brew before posting that one  The horrible spelling is evidence of that. Frankly, I'm seeing a lot of speculation on the religious aspects of the phrase "this has all happened before and it will happen again" and we haven't really seen anything in an episode yet that could even give us an inkling into what it means. I'm in the US and they've only just shown Hand of God, so I have no idea if what is mentioned in the last 2 eps gives any more clues or insight to help clear up this mystery. I'm not really great on Greek Mythology and I'm ashamed to admit my religious history is a bit lacking, but there is one thing I keep flashing on while reading these posts. The cylons refer to "a" God (singular). The colonists refer to the "Lords" (plural). Could this difference in the two have any bearing on the time in Earth's history when people were still worshipping the Gods and Godesses but Christanity/Jew (sorry, can't think of a better word. Please take no offense) was slowly starting to work its way where conflicts were started by people saying that there were no gods, there was only one god/ Could it be perhaps that maybe life on Kobol actually did start on Earth when those who wanted to continue to believe in their Lords fled to the stars and populated Kobol. And after so many years, the same thing started to happen on Kobol and people once again left only this time they populated 12 different colonies but remained tied to each other through a council. We could really analyze this to death if we wanted to, but I still think we need to maybe wait 2 or 3 eps into the 2nd season before something starts to make sense. |
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Post by vandriver97 on Mar 16, 2005 7:33:35 GMT -5
Reference: Scrolls, "all that has happened has happened before, & will happen again", Kobol, cylon/human baby. First of all, just for kicks, I will tell you that I believe that Adama is a cylon. YES, I know that he got tested, & I believe that he passed with flying colors, regardless of the fact that "everyone passes these days". I don't think he is a time bomb either, he is a good guy, doing a good job, provided he lives after being shot by boomer. To understand my definition of him being a cylon, you have to read to the end, & I think you will get a kick out of this twist. Okay here's a bit of speculation on my part, and this could be a bit of a tangent so work with me here... Leoben DID in fact say Adama was a cylon, no dispute. HOWEVER, Leoben did NOT say WHICH Adama was a Cylon. Therefore my money is on Apollo. I seriously just CAN NOT see William Adama being a Cylon, period, call me a fan of Edward James Olmos and HOPING and PRAYING that he's NOT one of them, but honestly I still wouldn't be surprised if he is, considering the twists that I'm sure RDM will throw at us next season. Still, smart money says Apollo is a toaster. |
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Post by MHall on Mar 16, 2005 8:38:01 GMT -5
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Post by smd on Mar 27, 2005 18:28:50 GMT -5
Mhall,
I like the essence of your theory. Cylons want to forget they were once cyborgs and want to be fully part of nature and get a soul.
However, I believe that you have one thing wrong.
They cannot easily forget that they were cylons. The entire cycle has to be played out for some cylons to forget and become fully human. The cycle completes when the "human" fleet escapes to "Earth". That generation of
cylons has advanced enough in their goal to achieve a sort of nirvana that finally breaks the cycle of death/rebirth in which cylons are trapped.
Earth in BTG does not have to mean literally our Earth.
It can be anywhere habitable in the universe, different in each cycle.
When the cycle is played out. It begins again. The 12 cylons set the stage for the next cycle. They need the hybrid babies because those babies are the seed for the next iteration of the cycle. So that the remaining cylons can try to break the cycle themselves, next time.
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Post by 1987SilverOak on Mar 28, 2005 16:25:34 GMT -5
Yes,
Overall I agree with that.
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