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Post by Flippy on Dec 2, 2004 16:27:54 GMT -5
I was just thinking about this briefly on the drive to work, the series was mentioned on a local radio station. The announcer was really hammering the new series, but I digress...
In the pilot, you clearly see Baltars batchalor pad being succomb to some big shock wave from one of the cylons big bangs! Now, I reckon, the real Baltar was killed. The nasty old cylons then put one of "their" Baltars in with the suvivors knowing that if the humans found him, they`d pick him up. This explains how "six" is implanted in his psyche (if indeed she actually is?) and maybe this is their plan? Remember, some are programmed to believe they are human!
Makes perfect sense to me!
;D
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Post by Spassvogel on Dec 2, 2004 17:11:20 GMT -5
Right before it hits, Six says "get down" and it seemed she was using her body to shield his from that blast...but who knows.
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Post by Blade Runner on Dec 2, 2004 17:25:33 GMT -5
Apparently it took 28 seconds from the flash to the pressure wave hitting the building so that is a long way from ground zero
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Post by mattw65 on Dec 2, 2004 17:31:30 GMT -5
I'm still wondering what happened to the original Six, mind you with all that glass in her back!!!
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Post by classicpony on Dec 2, 2004 21:01:04 GMT -5
If Baltar was a Cylon, then why did they even have the show "6 Degrees of Separation"? This show, (All about Baltar) shows a long standing human trait called.... survival at all cost!  Thats human to me, even if he is a traitor, (human trait) and he's crazy one that,(human trait) he is good at hiding it, (another human trait) Sooner or later he will be found out. Until then WOW this is to good to be just TV!  There will be some great EP's. watching them get closer to ID'ing who is a Cylon and who is not, I sure we all will get some surprises when the time comes. So hold on to your Vipers where in for a ride of a lifetime. |
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Post by Boomer on Dec 3, 2004 9:04:41 GMT -5
I must agree with this.
If Baltar is anything - he's human.
He displays a lot of guilt coming out in his nervous/crazy/irrational behaviour which none of the other Cylons have so far demonstrated.
Unless...
It's sort of like the Replicators in SG-1 where Fifth has been developed with characteristics so much very more human than any of the others.
Personally, I don't think Baltar could be a Cylon. But who knows...?
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Post by Flippy on Dec 3, 2004 10:09:19 GMT -5
Fair comment Boomer & Classicpony, but thats my point. What would make the perfect infiltration tool? Look at Boomer when she was nickin` all the explosives? Ok, she or it overcame the programming. Does she or it (!!) know she is a cylon? Baltar believes he is human, we will have to see.
By the way, the body of sultry blond, human or not, aint gonna protect a frail human body from a nuclear blast!
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Post by r2d2d3d4d5 on Dec 3, 2004 16:42:56 GMT -5
In the pilot, you clearly see Baltars batchalor pad being succomb to some big shock wave from one of the cylons big bangs! Now, I reckon, the real Baltar was killed. The nasty old cylons then put one of "their" Baltars in with the suvivors knowing that if the humans found him, they`d pick him up. This explains how "six" is implanted in his psyche (if indeed she actually is?) and maybe this is their plan? Remember, some are programmed to believe they are human! Makes perfect sense to me! ;D pf Kind of thought that myself. When he miraculously found Boomer/Helo he only had a couple of scratches. Even with Six shielding him I would have expected him to show a few more signs of injuries from such a huge explosion (it does seem kind of huge when he thinks about it and all the windows shudder). If Baltar was a Cylon, then why did they even have the show "6 Degrees of Separation"? This show, (All about Baltar) shows a long standing human trait called.... survival at all cost! It seems like they are going to spend a while fleshing out the Cylons on this series (there might not be any other buddies (?) after all) so perhaps they are working us through that somehow. |
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Post by Athlon64 on Dec 4, 2004 7:16:14 GMT -5
I was wondering if the mind of Six had somehow been transferred into Baltar's brain, and that is why he can see her. She shielded him from the blast of that nuclear weapon, but wouldn't that mean that her body was destroyed ?
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Post by UlricK on Dec 4, 2004 16:42:17 GMT -5
What six said was "Get down"
If you look at the scene there is a small wall between the windows and the floor. If she pushed him all the way to the floor, it's very possible that the shock wave passed on top of him without much damage since it was being deflected by that small wall.
Six on the other hand was killed/destroyed. That's why he looked so shocked when he saw her among the survivors waiting for the lottery, he probably saw what was left of her body.
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Post by ernestborg9 on Dec 5, 2004 10:04:41 GMT -5
I was wondering if the mind of Six had somehow been transferred into Baltar's brain, and that is why he can see her. She shielded him from the blast of that nuclear weapon, but wouldn't that mean that her body was destroyed ? Yep. This has been the subject of much debate elsewhere. Is she a figment of his slowly-unwinding mental state (most likely)? Is she a Cylon implant ("chip") - unlikely, seeing as how her actions seem at odds to the overall Cylon "goal")? Or is she some form of personality "download" from the original Six (possible, given when Six was alive her motivations seemed a little apart from the main thrust of her mission (disabling the central defence systems)? Here's a question I posed 'way back, and no-one responded to (ho-hum  , but may be worth throwing back into the pan: What if Baltar's body was destroyed in the blast, and what we are seeing is Baltar's original mentality now contained in a Cylon body? It's a hell of a stretch in many respects, given what we've seen, but could still turn out to be an interesting twist on things. |
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Post by Flippy on Dec 5, 2004 15:35:47 GMT -5
What if Baltar's body was destroyed in the blast, and what we are seeing is Baltar's original mentality now contained in a Cylon body? It's a hell of a stretch in many respects, given what we've seen, but could still turn out to be an interesting twist on things. Yes! Thats what I really think! I believe the last episode was a ploy to get the humans to really really trust Mr Baltar now. As six says to him, just before seducing Baltar (and half the male population of the Uk...) "no-one will ever accuse you of treason again...." That sealed it for me. pf |
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Post by koenigrules on Dec 5, 2004 16:05:12 GMT -5
I really think Baltar is a misguided human whom the Cylons find very interesting- not only sensually so (like Six), but from another perspective: that of a guilt-ridden soul who has to bear the responsibility for what he has done (namely selling out the human race).
The Cylons want to learn from him as much as possible, perhaps even feel remorse, shame & guilt like him after all the destruction they have wrought.
Just my take on things...
KR
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Post by Blade Runner on Dec 5, 2004 16:07:59 GMT -5
I really think Baltar is a misguided human whom the Cylons find very interesting- not only sensually so (like Six), but from another perspective: that of a guilt-ridden soul who has to bear the responsibility for what he has done (namely selling out the human race). The Cylons want to learn from him as much as possible, perhaps even feel remorse, shame & guilt like him after all the destruction they have wrought. Just my take on things... KR That more or less says what I think on the matter ;D |
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Post by Alan on Dec 5, 2004 16:35:22 GMT -5
I really think Baltar is a misguided human whom the Cylons find very interesting- not only sensually so (like Six), but from another perspective: that of a guilt-ridden soul who has to bear the responsibility for what he has done (namely selling out the human race). Agreed. Also, Baltar has value as an intelligence source and tactical asset. Consider: what would Baltar's response be if Aaron Doral approached him and said "load this program into the Galactica's FTL computer, or we'll expose your role in the destruction of the Colonies"? Even if Inner-Six is a delusion, Baltar is still quite valuable. "And if you refuse, Inner-Six is gonna sing Barry Manilow's Copa Cabana over, and over, and over, and over..." |
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