Post by MHall on Mar 3, 2005 6:12:07 GMT -5
We can link what happened in episode 13 to Roslin back to her dream sequence episode 8.
First of all, because of Moore's references to Blade Runner, this dream sequence is probably ultra-important, yet subtle! The unicorn dream in the director's cut of Blade Runner totally changes the meaning of the film - and it was originally cut out by the studios, because they thought the dream looked too artsy.
I think one meaning of the dream in episode 8, with being chased by apparently human soldiers and hiding with Leoben, is a foreshadowing of what happens in episode 13. It is a message that Laura Roslin would be persecuted by the military branch, hunted down like a witch/Cylon. But that Leoben will try to protect her.
Later in episode 8, Leoben tries to protect Roslin with the warning, "Adama is a Cylon." And for his kindness, Leoben is punished by Roslin by being tossed out an airlock. Leoben is not one to hold a grudge, so we should see Leoben try to help Roslin again in later episodes and in season two, through visions, dreams, and whatnot. I'm not sure how Roslin could again punish Leoben, while he's in her head, but maybe she'll figure out some way!
I think Roslin is a human with a chip in the head, just like Baltar. And Leoben is living there now, although even before, he could access the chip and give her visions. My main evidence is Star Trek II and III(!) (Roslin=McCoy, Leoben=Spock, Starbuck=Kirk with the teary eyed goodbye through the glass, and so now Roslin has Leoben's katra and will go on a quest to reunite him with his body.)
Is Adama a Cylon? My guess is that Leoben tells Roslin this, because once trapped in her head, if Roslin dies, Leoben dies. (No soul transfer mechanism in the little chip implants, as I think internal Six once implied.) So, Leoben wants Roslin to stay on her toes about Commander Adama, because he foresees a mortal danger to Roslin there (and/or threat to the Cylon Plan.) However, I think the statement is also literally true in a tricky way, meaning either Lee is a Cylon, or Zak is a Cylon, or everybody is a Cylon in some sense. This kind of duplicity is Leoben's style, and he would be privately laughing his butt off if Roslin misinterprets him in the way that he wishes.
First of all, because of Moore's references to Blade Runner, this dream sequence is probably ultra-important, yet subtle! The unicorn dream in the director's cut of Blade Runner totally changes the meaning of the film - and it was originally cut out by the studios, because they thought the dream looked too artsy.
I think one meaning of the dream in episode 8, with being chased by apparently human soldiers and hiding with Leoben, is a foreshadowing of what happens in episode 13. It is a message that Laura Roslin would be persecuted by the military branch, hunted down like a witch/Cylon. But that Leoben will try to protect her.
Later in episode 8, Leoben tries to protect Roslin with the warning, "Adama is a Cylon." And for his kindness, Leoben is punished by Roslin by being tossed out an airlock. Leoben is not one to hold a grudge, so we should see Leoben try to help Roslin again in later episodes and in season two, through visions, dreams, and whatnot. I'm not sure how Roslin could again punish Leoben, while he's in her head, but maybe she'll figure out some way!
I think Roslin is a human with a chip in the head, just like Baltar. And Leoben is living there now, although even before, he could access the chip and give her visions. My main evidence is Star Trek II and III(!) (Roslin=McCoy, Leoben=Spock, Starbuck=Kirk with the teary eyed goodbye through the glass, and so now Roslin has Leoben's katra and will go on a quest to reunite him with his body.)
Is Adama a Cylon? My guess is that Leoben tells Roslin this, because once trapped in her head, if Roslin dies, Leoben dies. (No soul transfer mechanism in the little chip implants, as I think internal Six once implied.) So, Leoben wants Roslin to stay on her toes about Commander Adama, because he foresees a mortal danger to Roslin there (and/or threat to the Cylon Plan.) However, I think the statement is also literally true in a tricky way, meaning either Lee is a Cylon, or Zak is a Cylon, or everybody is a Cylon in some sense. This kind of duplicity is Leoben's style, and he would be privately laughing his butt off if Roslin misinterprets him in the way that he wishes.