You Can't Go Home Again - GREAT, but one nitpick

[Big Brother]

MHall said:

Big Brother, I can't remember if you've seen all the episodes or not, but you'll eventually have to explain why the raider is responsive to some, while being unresponsive to others. Controlling the raider is not simply a matter of pulling the correct tendons.

No, I've only seen those eps which have aired on the Sci-Fi channel. (although if anyone wants to give me advice on getting them online via PM or email...purely for purposes of researching my perpetually-under-construction episode guide, you understand...)

If there is more to controlling the raider than yanking tendons...one MIGHT still theorize that Starbuck's natural piloting skills helped her intuitively send out whatever mental brain-wave patterns control the raider...

...but if there is some difference in biocylons that lets them interface with raiders, it HAS to have some physical presence in their bodies which a sufficently sophisticated examination would be able to detect. Maybe they didn't bring any of the right equipment with them when they left the smoking ruins of the Colonies, but given sufficient time they should be able to reconstruct, say, an MRI machine or a PET scanner. If they can build Vipers (as they will be sometime in season two, according to RDM), they should be able to build either of those.

The more the show claims Biocylons really ARE different from humans, the less plausible the inability to tell them apart becomes.

[caseOrange]

i have another nitpick that isn't about the stretching of the "science" of the show: namely, when Adama relieves Tigh of his duty. If the writers are using the US Navy as a model for the Galactica crew (which it appears they are), then the Commander cannot dismiss the X-O. The nature of his position as X-O precludes him from being relieved of his duties.

i had thought that something seemed not-right about that scene when i saw it; then 13th Cylon reminded me of the naval protocol concerning X-O's. IMHO, this is as glaring a hole as the one Starbuck plugged up on the raider.

[Big Brother]

My four years in US Army JROTC are more than a decade behind me, so I can't claim to be an expert on the prodcedures and regulations for reliving an officer of duty.

But there's reliveing of duty, and relieving of command.

Perhaps Tigh had the Conn that watch shift, that is, he was officially the guy in charge for that part of the day, giving the CO time for sleeping, eating, and general off-duty time. Granted, a CO (and an XO, for that matter) is never fully off duty, but each watch generally has someone other than the CO designated to be the guy in charge of the ship so that the CO can attend to administrative duties, inspections, paperwork, and so forth. This officer of the watch is in charge of making sure the ship doesn't bump into anything, and for the initial response to any emergencies before the CO can be woken up or recalled to the bridge.

Perhaps Tigh was the Officer of the Watch, and Adama was officially off duty, and so Adama merely ordered Tigh to go off duty and go take a nap or something, while Adama resumed command as the Officer of the Watch.

At least, that's about the only coherent explanation I can think of. At least it's not as silly as Riker actually resigning his commission in Starfleet and then being reinstated to his former rank and duties by the end of the episode (I think Worf did the same thing once, too).

[mjm800]

caseOrange said:

the Commander cannot dismiss the X-O. The nature of his position as X-O precludes him from being relieved of his duties.

Very true but how many people know this. I am ex-military, USMC and I did not know this. Anyway, it made for great drama and I can forgive this just as I can forgive the suit in the hole bit. Sometimes you just have to let it go, unless they do it time and time again, then we will have a problem.

[Helo]

As for the starbuck getting home issue lets ask ron moore hell probly come up with something like he did that ive put in my sig

[caseOrange]

mjm800 said:

Very true but how many people know this. I am ex-military, USMC and I did not know this. Anyway, it made for great drama and I can forgive this just as I can forgive the suit in the hole bit. Sometimes you just have to let it go, unless they do it time and time again, then we will have a problem.

Agreed. In fact it was one of my favorites scenes...the way Tigh straightened up and gave a stiff salute was kind of like a "Frak you!" back to Adama, IMO. That's why i called it a nitpick.

[zinfab]

relieving of "duty" makes more sense in this situation.

it was obviously not an attempt to relieve him of "command."

[Cosmic Superchunk]

You guys can nitpick all you want, it's still my favorite episode (so far).

[Callipygian]

Cosmic said:

You guys can nitpick all you want, it's still my favorite episode (so far).

It's my favorite, too, Cosmic. That said, I have to throw this out there. What if Kara could pilot the raider because she's a sleeper Cylon?

[Blade Runner]

She's the best pilot in the fleet why would'nt she be able to fly it, also she has alsorts of equipment on her to help the suit block that hole. Pay attention

[Cosmic Superchunk]

Blade said:

She's the best pilot in the fleet why would'nt she be able to fly it, also she has alsorts of equipment on her to help the suit block that hole. Pay attention

Yep, she is the best pilot aboard the Big G so I'd say she's very capable of flying a Cylon Raider. Even if it is a corpse.

[XwingRob]

I swear just before Starbuck opens up the hatch you see in the background something yellow is on the wing that looks like an S...

Edit: Actually its at the part when she is cutting the membrane after she opens it.
Can anyone see it as well or am I just seeing things.

[MattLee]

With regard to Adama exceeding his authority vis. Tigh remember that Adama has no living superiors, therefore their is nobody whom Tigh can take his complaint to, Except the president, but to meet the Prez. & air his grievance he needs to keep his current position.