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Post by Xenu on Feb 11, 2005 11:25:47 GMT -5
I don't have any hard info, but I would not be surprised by a small budget increase for season 2, especially for FX...but don't expect it to be huge, we're still in the realm of basic cable here.
In fact, does anyone have any hard 1st-season per-episode numbers (KR?)? I know that The Shield, for example, is shooting at about 1.2 mil per show...I wonder what BSG S1 was shot for....
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Post by redspine on Feb 11, 2005 11:30:17 GMT -5
I suppose if they intend to look more at the Cylons it would involve more CGI and I guess that eats up money?
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Post by mjm800 on Feb 11, 2005 14:37:04 GMT -5
Thank KR, this is great news and it has happened before, as Buffy season one was 13 episodes. Sometimes a network want to see how a show does before committing to more episodes per season, LOST, was an original order of 10 episodes; however, once the ratings came in they received a full season. I am still on the cusp as I like the tight in-depth storytelling that seldom strays too far from the main story with 13 episodes; on the other hand, of course I want more BSG in my life!  |
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Post by WilliamHuskerAdama on Feb 11, 2005 17:38:29 GMT -5
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Post by ReverendJ on Feb 11, 2005 21:40:29 GMT -5
Eh, I'm a bit iffy on 20 episodes, I remember in ST:TNG or Voyager, how there were "Nothing happened" episodes, where in the end, nothing changed, no new plot developments, idea, anything. You could take those epoisodes out completlely not miss a step. I'm a bit 'fearful' that making to many episodes will really degrade the quality, but I'm up for a few more episodes (maybe 16) I don't know what the magical cut of number for making bad episodes is, but I know it when I see it  |
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Post by prism700 on Feb 13, 2005 8:25:10 GMT -5
I'm in complete agreement here. I used to hate watching the "oh the holodeck has malfuctioned again" episodes of ST:TNG. Then an episode like the Inner Light or Best of Both Worlds would come along and it restored my faith.
With BSG i don't want to have my faith restored every now and again. If 13 episodes allows the directors, actors and writers more time to focus on what's working and what's not then i'm all for a shorter season. I want to see every episode in part to move the story along. If BSG continues its high standard then hopefully it will begin to be taken seriously as an adult drama like The Sopranos, 24, Nip/Tuck, Rescue Me or whatever. I would love to see it garner an award nomination for best drama without people seeing it as "we can't take this seriously because its a sci-fi show".
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Post by ladyrheena on Feb 15, 2005 12:46:54 GMT -5
Also minimising the no-development episodes will spare us that terrible of terrifying TV problems...THE CLIP SHOW EPISODE....and that scares me so much that I am just going to have to leave you here and go run away and hide in a corner just from thinking about it...  |
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Post by rimwar on Feb 15, 2005 19:03:06 GMT -5
20 shows for me the break neck speed at which they have told the story so far can certainly be throutled back a fraction. Knowing What the other 45k people are doing day to day with there lives would be an interesting insight. Ie reestablishing the economy .. Production factoryies for food / Viper parts / munitions, would be quit interesting for me. Granted you cant have this type of episode running one after another but would be a good flesh out of the Society issues. They touched on some of these things in Colonial day...
20 Episodes should not comprimise quality however Agreed!
Im sure there ASK for budget per episode has doulbled based on the popularity of the show. Scifi would be mad not to back that horse!!!!
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Post by 13thCylon on Feb 15, 2005 21:28:35 GMT -5
20 shows for me the break neck speed at which they have told the story so far can certainly be throutled back a fraction. Knowing What the other 45k people are doing day to day with there lives would be an interesting insight. Ie reestablishing the economy .. Production factoryies for food / Viper parts / munitions, would be quit interesting for me. Granted you cant have this type of episode running one after another but would be a good flesh out of the Society issues. They touched on some of these things in Colonial day... 20 Episodes should not comprimise quality however Agreed! Im sure there ASK for budget per episode has doulbled based on the popularity of the show. Scifi would be mad not to back that horse!!!! Thank you! I don't get how anyone in their right mind would want less than 20 eps! Good Gods, I for one, think that 20 would be appropriate. The writing will not suffer, it will be better 'cause we'll have more eps to explore more of the fleet & the people! More BSGTNS is better. This show is different than all the others, I feel that all involved have been aound & they'll do the right thing with this show! Have faith! Ronald D. "Frakin" Moore is at the helm & he won't let us down. If they only had 13 per season, it is way too long a wait 'til the next season & certain cast members, particularly the very young & the elder few, will frankly look a lot older by the time the next season rolls around! Especially with the season-ending cliffhanger eps, they'll come back the following season & everyone will look like they've aged a year when the ep is supposed to pick up where it left off! I just don't want another "Sopranos", where you'll get a handful of great eps, then it is an eternity 'til you get more & you have to go back over the old shows to remember where they left off! 20!  |
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Post by prism700 on Feb 16, 2005 13:31:24 GMT -5
This show is different than all the others Agreed - at the moment yes. But after 20 or so episodes a season - will we still be saying that? Personally, if it does opt for more than 20+ episodes i feel it will end up going down the route of Star Trek or Stargate rather than being regarded as 'serious' drama. That's just my opinion i might be wrong. Ron is just one creative talent behind the show (albeit the main one). However, i feel a successful show is very much an ensemble talent of writers, directors, actors and producers. I still think with 20 episodes produced and directed within a short timeframe (money is everything) the writers (and everyone really - directors, actors included) find themselves stretched and put under pressure more. Usually when this happens the writing becomes forced, weak or lazy and in some cases this can have a knock on effect on how the actors interpret their scenes. Also if the quality drops we won't need to worry about characters looking old because they won't be there! Characters will start being killed off at the actors request. I really don't think EJO, Mary MCDonnell, Jamie Bamber, James Callis would want to star in another Stargate/Star Trek type show. Maybe i'm wrong. Maybe they will go for 20 episodes and i hope my concerns are proved wrong...i love the show too and i want to be saying this several years down the line. |
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Post by Blade Runner on Feb 16, 2005 14:20:39 GMT -5
Prick your ears up for tonights anouncements on LV rock with Bodie Olmos  |
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Post by koenigrules on Feb 16, 2005 18:53:28 GMT -5
Yes- there will be more on this plus the ratings on Litmus.
I can assure you folks- there is nothing to fret about!
But tune in lvrocks to hear it all!
KR
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Post by mjm800 on Feb 16, 2005 19:03:00 GMT -5
Yes- there will be more on this plus the ratings on Litmus. I can assure you folks- there is nothing to fret about! But tune in lvrocks to hear it all! KR I am not sure when this thing is on or if it is EST or PST. What time will it be on at Hawaii time? I am 5 hours behing the East coast and 3 behind the West. Oooops, I found it and I will still be at work...  |
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Post by koenigrules on Feb 16, 2005 19:09:43 GMT -5
It airs 6pm PST, 8pm CST and 9pm EST.
Hope this helps.
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Post by mjm800 on Feb 16, 2005 19:21:48 GMT -5
It airs 6pm PST, 8pm CST and 9pm EST. Hope this helps. That's 3pm for me and I will still be at work hammering out the 2005-07 Hawaii State Budget...  Finance hearings start at 3pm...Let the whining begin.  |
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