My speculation for the Pegasus

[Kuralyov]

My friends and I were talking about ways to include the Pegasus in this storyline (hooray for nerds), and we ended up combining it with elements of the "Gun on Ice Station Zero" storyline, also...the Colonials after the Cylon War developed the Pulsar as a secret superweapon, but budget cuts when the threat of Cylon attack seemed to dim, so it was abandoned, Cain wss part of the project, so when the Cylon Holocaust happened, the Pegasus hightailed it out of there, with the idea of using the Pulsar against the Cylons. We even theorized that the reason it'd be on an "ice planet" would be to provide hydrogen fuel for fusion power, but that'd also limit any sort of manueverability for the Pulsar in uses against the Cylons.

We then decided that the reason Cain would keep the Pegasus behind could be that the Pulsar was captured or something, and he planned to destroy it with the Pegasus itself, maybe by making an FTL jump too close, thereby somehow damaging the Pulsar. Therefore, there'd be reasonable doubt on whetehr they died or not, to keep open the possibility of the Pegasus returning at some point.

If Sheba is still a woman, there could be an interesting Sheb/aStarbuck conflict over Apollo. Or, Sheba could be a man this time, and there could be Sheba/Apollo conflict over Starbuck.

Just some idle speculation by some idle nerds. Too much plot borrowed from TOS for ym tastes, but I figured it'd be worht sharing here.

[prism700]

I must be in the minority here. Am i the only one who is hoping that they DON'T rehash this episode? By all means introduce another Battlestar, but please develop another story arc - they have the creative power to do so.

[MEOB]

I would like a Pegasus stand-alone episode.

On the day of the attack, the Pegasus is on long distance patrol.

When the reports come in, Cain orders the Pegasus back to the colonies, but they arrive too late.

The Pegasus intercepts Cylon communications that a surviving Battlestar, the Galactica, is rendezvousing with survivors at Ragnor station, and ordering three basestars to jump to Ragnor and eliminate the fleet.

Cain orders the Pegasus to Alert status, and takes her in.

After an intense battle, the Pegasus emerges victorious, ensuring the survival of the Galactica and the fleet. They then set course for Ragnor station.

But when they arrive it is too late. The fleet has left, and the Pegasus has been left behind.

The episode ends with Dirk, er, Cain, saying something like "If I know Adama, he'll hold that fleet together. Maybe we'll catch up to them. Mr Gaeta, plot us a course away from here."

[Harvester]

Prism, I would say there are a lot of people that want to see Living Legend rehashed but it's also fair to say that there are a lot of people that don't want Moore to go anywhere near it.
I'm in the group that wants to stay away from Pegasus and Cain. It was a great TOS episode(s) and I think it should be left with TOS. It's time this series developed it's own path. Can't go forward if you keep looking back.
The only way I would like to see another Battlestar in this show is as a damaged beyond repair hulk with all hands lost that they could scavenge from.
I also would like to see Dirk Benedict stay in Montana or wherever he is. An appearance at this point would only cheapen him and the new series. I'm not a big fan of stunt casting. There are thousand of actors out there. You don't need to write special stories just to accomodate nostalgia, especially at the expense of the whole of the product. Dirk should do his thing and Moore et al should do theirs.

[frakkingnuts]

Unless the Pegasus had a commander like Adama who would not allow networked computers, she would've been destroyed like the other battlestars by the Cylon cyberweapon.

I agree with others... Moore et al should continue to be creative and not resurrect that same storyline.

[CylonGod]

What about other decomissioned battlestars? Galactica was the last of the 12 original BS' still in service. The Cylons wouldn't have to attack the decomissioned ships. Some survivors might have been able to reactivate one. it might be this ship that they come across. Just a thought. I don't necessarly like the Pegasus story for TNS.

[prism700]

I also would like to see Dirk Benedict stay in Montana or wherever he is. An appearance at this point would only cheapen him and the new series. I'm not a big fan of stunt casting. There are thousand of actors out there. You don't need to write special stories just to accomodate nostalgia, especially at the expense of the whole of the product. Dirk should do his thing and Moore et al should do theirs.

Yes - i agree with this also. I was someone who actually watched the new series before the original. I didn't realise the original had such a cult following nor was i aware of the backlash the new series received until i went online to find out more about it.

Having now watched the original series i wouldn't want to see Dirk in the new series. As an actor i feel he has a very limited range (sorry if i offend anyone but that is my opinion) I remember watching the A Team when i was younger and although BSG was before this show i see Face and Starbuck as essentially the same character. As you say harvester - there are thousands of actors out there and as the the ratings prove - the new series doesn't need anymore of the original actors to pull in viewers.

[CrimsonCrystal]

Below, I've reposted something I posted over at mediblvd. Wanted to throw these ideas out speculation... ;D

It would be pretty interesting if Cain is an outright warmonger like MacArthur (who wanted to nuke China during the Korean War). Maybe with some Admiral Bull Halsey quotes (Hit hard, hit fast, hit often).

What if the Cylons came back because Commander Cain of the Pegasus (and some support ships) was so egotistical and sure of himself, that he went and found the cylons and started unloading his nukes several years ago. He is hell bent on finishing the cylons because he believes he is right.

Unable or unwilling to return to the colonies (he has violated the armistice), he wages war in isolation, stealing fuel, food and fun toys (ammo and nukes) from the Cylons. This goes on for several years (maybe two years, homage to the original). He manages to keep a small core fleet that won't abandon him. Now he is completely rogue. Periodically, he sends loyal crew member in command of freigthers, to visit salvage yards to steal older viper models.

Meanwhile, the Cylons say Frak this. Humans can't be trusted. Lets go solve this problem once and for all. The Cylons return because Cain violated the armistice first.

Then Galactica finds them and Cain agrees to help get Big G fully fitted, all the while, Cain is planning on pulling Galactica into his suicidal war.

If you want tension, Cain can't be a goody goody. He can still be a model and respected war hero - just one that went rogue and restarted the Great War. I would think Adama would want to exchange some serious fistacuffs.


I like the idea that Cain might have been planning and plotting for several years. But I'd much rather see a MacArthur "whatif" scenario. What if MacArthur had gone nuking? Without Truman's permission? Maybe Pegasus was "intentionally" lost by Cain in order to go cause some trouble.

It might make for an interesting story that will increase the dramatic tension. It would put Adama in a tough spot. His old friend wants to kill more cylons (and is rather good at it and can help get Galactica back to fighting trim), but Adama has doubts about him and questions whether he should wear the uniform.

Cain: You have to help me, or your no better than that irresponsible civilian government.

Adama: I want to kill cylons as much as you. And yes, we should have hunted them down along time ago, but it's the civilian gov't job to decide who and when we wage war against. Not us.

Cain: I heard your speech. What we did to the cylons? What the hell kind of talk is that?

You get the idea. This could be a very explosive re-union of old war friends...with Roslin and Tigh and Baltar watching them butt heads like two old bulls.

And you could have Tigh (who is the son of a Chief of Staff, per deleted mini scenes), saying, You know the location of the cylon homeworld? We could jump in a nuke em!

#6 could be screaming in Baltar's ear "You can't let them attack. Oh...look Gaius...look at the photo of Cain's girlfriend, Cassieopea....hmm...now she looks familiar, doesn't she? I must have seen her face a thousand times."
(of course, Cassie would be none other than another #6 copy).

[Kuralyov]

I got the feeling that the Cylons had bene planning to resume the war from the day of the armistice. They just waited this long so they could be 100% certain that they would defeat the humans.

[rimwar]

i would love to see the pegasus in a episode as it give the writers a chance for a major space battle which would ultimatly destroy the pegasus in a cliff hanger as to which battlestar was infact destroyed. im sure you can all imagine this. Also it would give galactica the chance to absorbe some new pilots and equiptment form them... Love the idea. Dirk ..... well let sleeping dogs lay!

[gingerdave]

There was one idea one of my friends came up with . . . Cain is supposed to be some sort of veteran . . . so have him played by Patrick Stewart! ;D

For the comedy value, if nothing else.

[Blade Runner]

gingerdave said:

There was one idea one of my friends came up with . . . Cain is supposed to be some sort of veteran . . . so have him played by Patrick Stewart! ;D

For the comedy value, if nothing else.

Robert Patrick maybe, but not Picard

[frakkingnuts]

Although I like the suggestion of Patrick Stewart, how about Cain being played by a woman?

[WilliamHuskerAdama]

I can see Harrison Ford or Robert Lindsay saying those Commander Cain lines but I think it's Harrison Ford would be the strongest feeling that is if he wants to do it .

WHA

[Thoth]

This has a strong following. I personally would love to have the Pegasus return.

As for the actor, there are quite a few that would be cool. I don't really care who, just bring back the Peg!